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** The AMD Navi Thread **

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by subbytna, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. CuriousTomCat

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    That would undercut AMD and increase Nvidia's monopoly to the point that Nvidia's next gen would be even more expensive and they'd have no reason to drop their prices anymore.
    Athough a $100 price drop would be great short term, long term we'd be in serious trouble in my opinion because AMD couldn't compete.
     
  2. JediFragger

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    Wouldn’t it be funny if AMD were applying their ‘initial stock discount’ again like they did with Vega :p
     
  3. robfosters

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    UK price is bound to be about £500, which is too much.
     
  4. Martini1991

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    But unfortunately what AMD have on offer just isn't really good enough for the majority.
    I mean sure, it's a better deal than buying a 2070.

    But given how long a 2070's been out, if people were after that price/performance they'd have bought a 2070.
     
  5. Stephanie Peterson

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    The majority dont buy 500 quid cards.
    Its 10% faster for 10% less. not brilliant i give you that but not awful.
     
  6. flea.rider

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    gonna stick with my 64 for now ... disappointed
     
  7. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    In the UK the pricing is retarded.

    RX5700 is $380 which is £360 here when the RTX2060 is £300.
    RX5700XT is $450 which is £425 when the RTX2070 is £450,and has been as "low" as £425.
     
  8. MoodyB

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    At $449 / £449 you might as well buy a 2nd hand Evga 1080ti with some warranty left.
     
  9. Martini1991

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    The 2070's an awful prospect.
    The 5700XT's less awful.
     
  10. Panos

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    That's something scratching my head. Vega "blower" at 1576/945 is around 10% faster than 2070 at 1905/7001. (overclock by 30% on most model which are at 1620 boost)
    Price wise Vega 64 has £330 (blower) or £390 (Nitro), compared to £450 of the cheapest 2070.

    Yet the 5700XT at $450 (£440ish) is again 10% faster than the 2070!!!!!!!! Ofc we do not know which 2070. A 1620 boost clock one of a 1905 overclocked one.

    Which makes the Vega 64 a bargain. Sure FidelityFX looks awesome, however I do not see an upgrade path for those having a Vega 64 other than the Radeon VII. :/
     
  11. Martini1991

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    And while I always thought that the 5700XT would be parity with a Vega 64 kind of thing, the hype about the pricing got me thinking AMD might go all in for Crossfire.
    So I might have bought two 5700XT's to go with the 3900X.
     
  12. CuriousTomCat

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    Surely it's good that your Vega 64 is future proofed until next gen.
     
  13. flea.rider

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    true but was hoping for something special
     
  14. JediFragger

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    I bet it’s HDMI 2.0 too to boot!
     
  15. Martini1991

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    Lets say your Vega 64 breaks and it's now out of warranty, what do you do?

    And I wouldn't exactly call it future proof. Sure it's absolutely fine, but if you want more performance at 4K for example, your only option is Nvidia (Or a VII before the stock disappears) neither are great options.
     
  16. easyrider

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    1080ti stays with me.
     
  17. shankly1985

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    This all makes me more excited to see Navi 20. Looking forward to see the new features in use and when more games are built from the ground up Navi is looking great! Its worth keeping in mind most these games showed are not built with Navi in mind. You then add the more and more devs jumping on AMD ship the future is looking great for AMD.
     
  18. Panos

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    I do not think the 5700XT is faster than Vega.
     
  19. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    There were RTX2070 cards for under £450 on deals IIRC. So with VAT,$450 is at least £425 minimum. People might moan at RTX,but wait until Nvidia starts putting some effects in a game like Cyberpunk 2077. AMD selling for the same price won't help them.
     
  20. Martini1991

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    And the VII's EOL now.
     
  21. Martini1991

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    That makes it worse :p