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highest spec they have only announced is the 9070xt which is probably in line with a 7900xt but for less money
no replacement for 7900xtx or higher it seems
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no replacement for 7900xtx or higher it seems
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AMD's GPU announcement was about as exciting as lettuce soup.
Highest end being a 7900XT replacement with 4GB less memory, Wow, Ground breaking, 2 years of development for that, Revolutionary.... /s
Highest end being a 7900XT replacement with 4GB less memory, Wow, Ground breaking, 2 years of development for that, Revolutionary.... /s
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Thats pants then, what was the point of them announcing anything!?!?
I stick to my 7900xtx.
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Thats pants then, what was the point of them announcing anything!?!?
I stick to my 7900xtx.
They want to appeal to mid range customers with a much lower price point so they can build up marketshare rather than doing a really fast and expensive card like the 7900XTX which isn't bought by many people compared to something like a 7900GRE/XT.
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it reminds me of the 5700xt launch, which was the highest spec card of that range
I had the vega 64 (which was the previous generation) which had about 10fps less but no real point in upgrading for such a small amount for so much money
if I remember the 5700xt did well in sales? and was a good card overall
I had the vega 64 (which was the previous generation) which had about 10fps less but no real point in upgrading for such a small amount for so much money
if I remember the 5700xt did well in sales? and was a good card overall
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Anything over £450 for the 9070XT is pointless
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£400 would be a good deal, 7900xt ish but more efficient / new fsr stuff
then its around £150 less than 5070 for similar fps (but without the better dlss vs fsr etc)
then its around £150 less than 5070 for similar fps (but without the better dlss vs fsr etc)
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Yeah they can't afford that, as it'll affect their entire stack. DoA imo.
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£450 - 500 is exactly what nvidia want, a card which tempts the "UPGRADE" to team green, £399.99 for the top models £350 FE deal
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With Nvidia pricing the 5070 at $550, I'm actually more confident now that the 9070XT will be $450 or less. AMD fumbled the presentation yesterday, so a lower price is their only chance of making any waves now with the 9070XT. Nvidia wouldn't have cut their prices otherwise.
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I suspect the fact that its not 400 / 450 is the reason for it not being discussed on their live stream yesterday
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They got wind of Nvidia info/poss pricing and **** the bed tbh, scrubbed it from their presentation. Cowards as per.
The 6700xt was $480 and the 7700xt was $450 and neither sold anything until they both were under $400, so what was the point of the higher launch prices ? AMD didn't make any more money from them, and just lost any momentum they might have got from day one review hype.
The 6750xt released at something stupid like $550 and could be had for way under $400 6 months later.
I'm thinking it's going up against the 5070 so £100 less I think they have a chance , yes I would like it lower but is it possible because they have more cards below that in the stack to price as well
I don't think it's that clear cut, £450-500 for a 9070XT would still be alright, not a deal but it's still worth a look depending on circumstance. The 5070 isn't much more powerful if at all and has 4GB less VRAM. Jensen made a claim of how it's 4090 performance once you turn on DLSS and frame gen and the other AI features, but let's not forget those eat up VRAM too, and with $50 price cut they seemingly are not all that confident it will hold up against a potential 9070XT.
Of course, I also think the golden pricing opportunity is at £399, at that price it's almost a no brainer against a 5070. The FE isn't going to be much cheaper though, those models are well built these days and can even rival some of the best AIB models.
It's not going up against the 5070, if it's going up against anything it will be whatever the 5060/ti is, but mainly it's going up against whether AMD is stupid enough to make the same mistake for the 4th time for zero benefit.
And how do you know that ? 5070 could be 4070ti performance in raster with 12gb vram or have you been sucked in it's 4090
Hardware unboxed said based on the one game it looked slightly faster than the 4070 super that's in like for like comparison
We still don't know how the 9070xt and 5070 will compare
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thing is AMD are talking about improving market share, it cant be just a toss up, it has to be much better value wise than current market
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The problem with this is that it has to be a sustained push over a decade at least, not just a one-off gen (or they'll just go backwards). And would they be willing to break-even or even lose money to do this? I'm not so sure...
If they're losing money overall I think they're best off out of the discrete market, they just aren't cut out for it.
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