*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[humbug]

Anyone else think that AMD did ye old jebait and switch the BIOS at the last minute and that's why they didn't show of GPU's at CES? The performance might have been a surprise to Nvidia and that could be why RTX 5080 is delayed and they are swapping the final BIUOS on that card as well?

Just a thought

TBH no, AMD are so bad at this they jebait themselves....

 

[sx_turbo]

Are people still trying on the "AMD drivers bad" nonsense?

No.

Apparently 'jank' but only sufferable cos AMD cheaper.

I do agree there is probably some things that still play up from time to time, think people have issues with the presets not being saved in adrenaline.

Personally I don't use adrenaline for anything, I just do the settings in game, do people spend that much time in their GPU driver software?

 

[Boomstick777]

TBH no, AMD are so bad at this they jebait themselves....

Haha

 

[humbug]

Apparently 'jank' but only sufferable cos AMD cheaper.

I do agree there is probably some things that still play up from time to time, think people have issues with the presets not being saved in adrenaline.

Personally I don't use adrenaline for anything, I just do the settings in game, do people spend that much time in their GPU driver software?

I've come from 3 generations of Nvidia to AMD.

GTX 970
GTX 1070
RTX 2070 S

RX 7800 XT, based on that experience, no. AMD drivers have been impeccably behaved, not a single issue. Could not have asked for better.

 

[santa]

Apparently 'jank' but only sufferable cos AMD cheaper.

I do agree there is probably some things that still play up from time to time, think people have issues with the presets not being saved in adrenaline.

Personally I don't use adrenaline for anything, I just do the settings in game, do people spend that much time in their GPU driver software?

Gaming and display is decent, but when you get to compute and to a lesser extent Linux, simply put AMD don't put enough resources into it. While most may experience "works for me", there are far too many instances where things break at no fault of the user. I gave up expecting rocm to ever be decent many years ago. But they traditionally have had much better memory bandwidth and fp64 compute than nvidia for the price. Like not even close. Battlemage also has high memory and compute specs for the price which is why I was so excited for that. Battlemage has teething issues from being new, AMD hardware still has teething issues from the software stack a decade later. AMD is great for CPU, it's great for the GPU hardware, it totally sucks at the GPU software.

 

[adidan]

AMD drivers haven't been 'bad' for years, I've had no more worse experiences than with Nvidia when I also had a RX570 and 580.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Loving this rumour

Sapphire teases Radeon RX 9070 PULSE graphics card - VideoCardz.com

Sapphire has a new Radeon card coming, and it’s a dual-fan design Sapphire and AMD did not showcase the PULSE card at CES, but a new teaser posted by Sapphire on social media suggests its release is imminent. Sapphire is already known to be developing two models: PURE and NITRO+, both of which...

videocardz.com

Dual fan would suit my case to be honest.

The Sapphire Pulse cards are decent and more compact than other equivalent AMD cards - this would be ideal for my system.

 

[humbug]

Gaming and display is decent, but when you get to compute and to a lesser extent Linux, simply put AMD don't put enough resources into it. While most may experience "works for me", there are far too many instances where things break at no fault of the user. I gave up expecting rocm to ever be decent many years ago. But they traditionally have had much better memory bandwidth and fp64 compute than nvidia for the price. Like not even close. Battlemage also has high memory and compute specs for the price which is why I was so excited for that. Battlemage has teething issues from being new, AMD hardware still has teething issues from the software stack a decade later. AMD is great for CPU, it's great for the GPU hardware, it totally sucks at the GPU software.

A mate of mine is a 100% Linux user, Manjaro, he thinks, and he gets this from experience, Nvidia are garbage on Linux, he has ran all AMD on Linux for some time now, he's far from alone in that.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

A mate of mine is a 100% Linux user, Manjaro, he thinks, and he gets this from experience, Nvidia are garbage on Linux, he has ran all AMD on Linux for some time now, he's far from alone in that.

AMD Linux open source drivers are better than the Nvidia ones now - some of my mates who run Linux,now prefer the AMD cards.

 

[humbug]

AMD Linux open source drivers are better than the Nvidia ones now - some of my mates who run Linux,now prefer the AMD cards.

Yeah.

Here is the thing, AMD are in no way perfect, there are things that one can pick them up on, sure, Nvidia are also not perfect, while their problems might be different in different areas they do have their own problems.

There-fore IMO its very disingenuous to use blanket statements like "AMD drivers bad" as if Nvidia's drivers are perfect, they aren't, but if you don't agree with the latter you're an AMD fanboy, no, AMD doesn't really have many' if any fans, there are plenty of people who will pay way over the odds for garbage tier GPU's on the Nvidia side tho, AMD can't get away with that.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Looking at the RX7700XT Pulse pictures,the RX9070 Pulse looks a bit shorter:

Sapphire Radeon RX 7700 XT Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7700 XT Pulse is priced at AMD's MSRP of $450, which makes it an attractive choice. You still get a great cooler that's paired with outstanding fan settings that result in a whisper-quiet gaming experience that's quieter than most GeForce cards.

www.techpowerup.com

Yeah.

Here is the thing, AMD are in no way perfect, there are things that one can pick them up on, sure, Nvidia are also not perfect, while their problems might be different in different areas they do have their own problems.

there fore IMO its very disingenuous to use blanket statements like "AMD drivers bad" as if Nvidia's drivers are perfect, they aren't, but if you don't agree with the latter you're an AMD fanboy, no, AMD doesn't really have many if any fans, there are plenty of people who will pay way over the odds for garbage tier GPU on the Nvidia side tho, AMD can't get away with that.

I have had both for the last 20 years and for the most part they have been much of a sameness for me.

 

[LostCorpse]

my comment wasnt meant to start a flame war. just my own personal perceptions based on reports, and some previous aged expriences.
"we remember the bad more than the positives".

There are 2 points being made i think
when people received the cards i.e. at release or some time after (release drivers may be buggy, 5months-1year later there may not be the same issues issues)
and the general issues people might expirence for various reasons, windows upates/driver versions/bios version/os/general os incompatabilites with hardware/software
some people will have issues / others wont.
my personal expirence has been with nvia for the most part and "it just works" the only issues are usually with superold cards.

i personally think there will be an uptick in AMD card users in the future, mostly from Linux uptake but also for things like the VR platform standalone and cost vs spec reasons.

we see this with the steamdeck already. The Deckard (valves standalone compute VR headset) using an amd chipset wouldnt be unreasonable as example. which would also mean better linux support in future.

 

[humbug]

my comment wasnt meant to start a flame war. just my own personal perceptions based on reports, and some previous aged expriences.
"we remember the bad more than the positives".

There are 2 points being made i think
when people received the cards i.e. at release or some time after (release drivers may be buggy, 5months-1year later there may not be the same issues issues)
and the general issues people might expirence for various reasons, windows upates/driver versions/bios version/os/general os incompatabilites with hardware/software
some people will have issues / others wont.
my personal expirence has been with nvia for the most part and "it just works" the only issues are usually with superold cards.

i personally think there will be an uptick in AMD card users in the future, mostly from Linux uptake but also for things like the VR platform standalone and cost vs spec reasons.

we see this with the steamdeck already. The Deckard (valves standalone compute VR headset) using an amd chipset wouldnt be unreasonable as example. which would also mean better linux support in future.

Its the dumbed down populist blanket statements that i have a problem with, statements that were true 20 years ago but haven't been for some years now and persist despite this, then people wonder why Nvidia's sell is £1200 for software with some hardware to enable that software thrown in.

And that my friends is only going to intensify. You're all gaslighting your selves in to it, and for what?

 

[Marak]

not had a problem for at least 2 years

The 7000 series had a gamebreaking bug with World of Warcraft in DX12 that caused random driver crashes (freeze, black screen then recover) which was never addressed by either AMD or Blizzard. Haven't played for ages but keep checking the problem thread out of curiousity to see if it was ever fixed, so far no.

When I had a 7900XT it was flawless apart from that one issue.

 

[harmattan]

I've come from 3 generations of Nvidia to AMD.

GTX 970
GTX 1070
RTX 2070 S

RX 7800 XT, based on that experience, no. AMD drivers have been impeccably behaved, not a single issue. Could not have asked for better.

I've been back and forth from nV and ATI/AMD every generation (10+?) since, well, they existed as companies. Both have had their set of driver issues, and I wouldn't class one company over another, and never have I felt the need to say to myself "I'm only going to by company x because company y's drivers are bad".

Catalyst drivers are better than ever at present, and the integrated GPU/CPU/Memory UX experience far exceeds nVs.

 

[Armageus]

Catalyst drivers are better than ever at present, and the integrated GPU/CPU/Memory UX experience far exceeds nVs.

Erm....


(They haven't been called that for at least 8 years)

 

[Chrisc]

AMD drivers tend to be really good these days you get the odd problem every now and then but you do with NVIDIA drivers as well.

The last issue i had with Radeon drivers was on the Vega 64, where it had issue with web browsers and it made it impossible to scroll without flickering constantly.

it was fixed with a quick rollback. Outside of that, ive had zero problems.

 

[humbug]

There was a rumour for the 15'th, i get the feeling that's going to turn out a bust, but when tho? IMO we will have to wait until after RTX 50 series reviews, so some time in February for the paper launch.

AMD's new RX 9070 GPUs could be revealed as soon as this week, a new rumor suggests

RX 9070 & RX 9070 XT should finally be fully revealed by AMD soon. No date has been officially announced, but rumors point toward this week.

www.pcguide.com

 

[TNA]

Erm....


(They haven't been called that for at least 8 years)

His last back and forth was 8 years ago

Pretty sure thry are called Adrenaline now. I think... Been a good 3-4 years for me now

I am hoping they will be in a good place with FSR in two years time with their new architecture. Could easily return back.

I have to many back to back green GPU's now. So much so that I think I now have had the same amount of Nvidia as AMD. My list of GPU's used to be a red wall before.

 

[Mercurial]

I've had both Nv & AMD over the last god knows how long, both have been fairly trouble free for me under Windows. Half the time it is Windows thats causes the issue not the drivers with both manufacturers.

I find I game more now on Linux and AMD is far superior in that regard as the drivers are built into the OS, so get updated when you update the kernel. Nvidia can be far, far trickier to update on Linux depending on your distribution.