I have a sneaky suspicion the 9060 is going to be a Navi 32 rebrand, that's how they will get rid of stock.
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I have a sneaky suspicion the 9060 is going to be a Navi 32 rebrand, that's how they will get rid of stock.
It needs to gain 38% over a 7800 XT to achieve that.
60 CU's vs 64 CU's +7%
2.4 Ghz vs 3.0 Ghz +25%
Memory Bandwidth 624 GB/s vs 650 GB/s +4%
Its possible, AMD's slide also said RDNA 4 is faster per shader.
RDNA 3 is at least 25% per shader faster than RDNA 2, the 6900 XT has 80 CU's vs 60 CU's on the 7800 XT (+33%) they are clocked almost identical and yet the 7800 XT is 97% the performance of the 6900 XT, 10% faster in RT.
60 CU's vs 64 CU's +7%
2.4 Ghz vs 3.0 Ghz +25%
Memory Bandwidth 624 GB/s vs 650 GB/s +4%
Its possible, AMD's slide also said RDNA 4 is faster per shader.
RDNA 3 is at least 25% per shader faster than RDNA 2, the 6900 XT has 80 CU's vs 60 CU's on the 7800 XT (+33%) they are clocked almost identical and yet the 7800 XT is 97% the performance of the 6900 XT, 10% faster in RT.
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Right, RDNA 3 was 5nm for the main die, it did have 6nm IMC / Cache chips but they are not relevant in this context, RDNA 4 will move to a purely monolithic 4nm node, the same node that the current RTX 4000 series is on, i don't know what Nvidia are doing other than the 5000 series is still on some form of 4nm, it could be a different / more enhanced 4nm node or the same as AMD.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The 9070 was deliberately renamed to mimic Nvidia's line up, Frank Azor just said it, Nvidia's naming scheme is recognisable and AMD wants to be clear about what class of GPU people are looking at, so i'm guessing the 9070 is a ##70 class and the 9070 XT is a ##70 Ti.
The leaked performance is wrong, it is faster than that.
The leaked performance is wrong, it is faster than that.
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Yes, that slide is nothing to do with positioning performance, its about positioning naming.
Also, FSR 4 is on the fly ML and RDNA 3 doesn't have the ML performance to do it, but they are looking at optimising it to try and get it working in some form on RDNA 3, the ML performance on RDNA 4 is massively higher than it is on RDNA 3, at CES they talked about Strix Halo having 2X the ML performance of the 4090, tho i'm sure that is very cherry picked.
Again, I agree that branding matters, but that's not the only thing that keeps people on iPhones. There can be a huge sunk cost with app store purchases, customization, accessories, etc.
Vendor lock-in is simply not a thing with graphics cards. There is absolutely no switching cost to pulling out an NV card and replacing it with an AMD one (or vice versa) in <5 minutes.
DLSS is a feature, not an ecosystem lock-in.
The German source below actually shows AMD cards outselling NV ones in Q1 2024 - take with a pinch of salt, as it's just based on one retailer who may have a vendor alignment (I know nothing about them). As @eeii and @NZXT30 said above, I suspect the real volume is in OEM desktops and laptops... we as PC builders are merely the sideshow
To answer your specific question for that time period, looks like it's roughly 45% share for the 4070+S vs. 55% for the 7800XT. I'm sure you could dig back historically to build up a full data set if you really wanted to
Grafikkarten-Verkaufsstatistik Mindfactory Q1/2024 | 3DCenter.org
Sonntag, 14. April 2024 / von Leonidas Mit dem abgelaufenen ersten Jahresquartal 2024 läßt sich eine neue Grafikkarten-Verkaufsstatistik der diesbezüglichen Absätze & Umsätze des deutschen Einzelhändlers aufstellen, inwww.3dcenter.org
Its nice to see the RX 7800 XT doing well, its a damned good GPU, it deserves it.
I know the feeling...
That puts the 9700 XT about 15% ahead of the 7900 XTX, 4070 Ti RT in Cyberpunk is what we expected so.... as expected, if the price is not too high this is decent.
Right... Cyberpunk is worst case for AMD, anything else would be progressively better, Wokong is still very heavy on the RT but already now the 9070 XT is more inline with a 4080 S.
No one is saying AMD should solve Nvidia performance problems in games like this, if they did that AMD performance would be very much higher, the point is the percentage difference, 3 FPS is 10% behind the 4080 Super in this heavy RT game, be that as it may it makes the "Nvidia RT" argument substantially less if not null, unless the 5070 is substantially faster in RT than the 4080 S, can you see that?
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Around 300 watts, not confirmed.
Nvidia: your jibate is weak.AMD RDNA4 Launch: RX 9070 XT $499 | RTX 4080 Performance
Meanwhile Nvidia: RTX 5060 $299 | RTX 4080 Performance
Anyone else think that AMD did ye old jebait and switch the BIOS at the last minute and that's why they didn't show of GPU's at CES? The performance might have been a surprise to Nvidia and that could be why RTX 5080 is delayed and they are swapping the final BIUOS on that card as well?
Just a thought
TBH no, AMD are so bad at this they jebait themselves....
I've come from 3 generations of Nvidia to AMD.
GTX 970
GTX 1070
RTX 2070 S
RX 7800 XT, based on that experience, no. AMD drivers have been impeccably behaved, not a single issue. Could not have asked for better.
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A mate of mine is a 100% Linux user, Manjaro, he thinks, and he gets this from experience, Nvidia are garbage on Linux, he has ran all AMD on Linux for some time now, he's far from alone in that.
Yeah.
Here is the thing, AMD are in no way perfect, there are things that one can pick them up on, sure, Nvidia are also not perfect, while their problems might be different in different areas they do have their own problems.
There-fore IMO its very disingenuous to use blanket statements like "AMD drivers bad" as if Nvidia's drivers are perfect, they aren't, but if you don't agree with the latter you're an AMD fanboy, no, AMD doesn't really have many' if any fans, there are plenty of people who will pay way over the odds for garbage tier GPU's on the Nvidia side tho, AMD can't get away with that.
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