*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

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my comment wasnt meant to start a flame war. just my own personal perceptions based on reports, and some previous aged expriences.
"we remember the bad more than the positives".

There are 2 points being made i think
when people received the cards i.e. at release or some time after (release drivers may be buggy, 5months-1year later there may not be the same issues issues)
and the general issues people might expirence for various reasons, windows upates/driver versions/bios version/os/general os incompatabilites with hardware/software
some people will have issues / others wont.
my personal expirence has been with nvia for the most part and "it just works" the only issues are usually with superold cards.

i personally think there will be an uptick in AMD card users in the future, mostly from Linux uptake but also for things like the VR platform standalone and cost vs spec reasons.

we see this with the steamdeck already. The Deckard (valves standalone compute VR headset) using an amd chipset wouldnt be unreasonable as example. which would also mean better linux support in future.

Its the dumbed down populist blanket statements that i have a problem with, statements that were true 20 years ago but haven't been for some years now and persist despite this, then people wonder why Nvidia's sell is £1200 for software with some hardware to enable that software thrown in.

And that my friends is only going to intensify. You're all gaslighting your selves in to it, and for what?

 

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There was a rumour for the 15'th, i get the feeling that's going to turn out a bust, but when tho? IMO we will have to wait until after RTX 50 series reviews, so some time in February for the paper launch.

AMD's new RX 9070 GPUs could be revealed as soon as this week, a new rumor suggests

RX 9070 & RX 9070 XT should finally be fully revealed by AMD soon. No date has been officially announced, but rumors point toward this week.

www.pcguide.com

 

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I would rather have the raw performance of the hardware, as opposed to frame generation and upscaling providing the added generational performance, while this is not universally true, yet, it is a trend, cite RTX 4060 / 4060 Ti vs the previous generations of those cards, we are also not getting the raw performance upgrade we used to with some of the other SKU's either but with a significant price increase.

In AMD's words "its all about the software now" the fact that AMD have realised this quite recently is a good thing, all be it belated, right? Sure..... But only because that is the environment AMD are now trying to operate in.

 

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So long as both GPU's are running at above 95% it shouldn't matter, it seems they are.

Has this been posted yet ? Dunno if it's legit.

Trading blows with the 4080, who knows right?

 

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Regardless of what the performance is it, as always comes down to price, 4080 performance is nice but at £600+? no.... at £500? yeah if it also beats out the 5070, I don't think the 5070 is set to match the 4080, the 4070 would have to gain 60% to do that and that's twice what we see on Nvidia's 5070 slide.

at under £500, like £470? Great.... winner winner.....

 

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If it's just under a 7900XT at £450-500 it'll be a decent buy for an AMD option

You can't really understate Nvidias software advantage though.

I like having an AMD desktop and Nvidia laptop (Although if I wasn't getting smashed by interest rate on my mortgage id probably change that round this time around)

I recently played a game on my 4060 laptop, lowering the resolution while using DLSS and I was actually quite amazed.

What I was also impressed about was using ultra performance DLSS as well, compared to AMD's current FSR

Because of this, I can see people buying a 5070 readily

But Nvidia needs to sort out their Linux side, everyone needs to get in bed with Valve and lets make 2025 SteamOS year.

At the moment AMD is miles ahead in that regard

For £450-500 it need to be a bit better than sub 7900 XT, its only 30% faster than a 7800 XT and i paid £480 for mine full price.

 

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It's possibly a poor upgrade piece for you (And by extension me as I have a 7800XT as well, a stupid purchase tbh), but there will be loads of people it will satisfy.

AMD aren't competing with themselves, 7900 XT is where it looks like the RTX 5070 will land and while yes to get them at the $550 MSRP you either need to be lucky enough to get an FE card because AIB Nvidia cards at MSRP usually come with garbage level coolers, you will none the less be able to get them at that price.

If AMD fall under the 5070 for £50 less its a worse deal than the 7800 XT was in comparison to the 4070 and reviewers deemed that as "meh" at best, they will class this as "don't buy" and spend 2 months worth of videos hating on it, like it or not they have a huge influence on the success or not of GPU's.

 

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For context the 7800 XT was 5% faster than the 4070, even 90% the performance in RT over all and $100 cheaper, reviewers still didn't like it, not good enough was the best verdict they gave out of all of the 7000 series range.

 

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My understanding is the 7800 XT reviewed well and in fact was recommended over the 4070 by many tech sites.

Not the mainstream ones.

 

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HUB verdict.

Bottom line, the 7800 XT marks AMD's first "good" launch in their RDNA 3 series, a notable achievement, albeit 9 months post the initial release. The 7800 XT essentially offers a 6800 XT experience at a discounted rate, with minor enhancements. While it might not be groundbreaking, especially after a 3-year gap, it is satisfactory given the generation's trajectory. So, with limited alternatives, we guess we'll take it.

In other words "meh"

 

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I would have worded that very differently.

Its 47% faster than the 6700 XT with 16GB vs 12GB of VRam for a 4% increase in price.

 

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Also I guess I announce leak for 15th January was wrong

It was, AMD are going to wait for the 5070 reviews, then spend 2 weeks pondering that, then spend another 2 week preparing a response, you're not going to see that response until deep in to February because AMD's mantra these days is always "be patient".

Anyway, like most people i don't sit and watch for every word spoken in a review video, i skip straight to the verdict.

 

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Herein lies the problem for AMD. At no stage was that date and leak attributed to AMD. So when it comes and goes with nothing announced, people blame AMD.

AMD do themselves no favours with their BS to be sure though. Then wonder why people move on from even caring anymore. They just don’t know how to keep interest piqued.

What like always waiting for everyone looking for a new GPU to supply themselves with Nvidia hardware before coming in too late with their offerings?

"Be patient"

 

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And yet you go around in circles with your totally incorrect “conclusions”. You getting it wrong because you only read the headlines is purely on you.

Its what everyone does, no one sits and watches hours of review videos on review day and they know it, people just want to know what the verdict is.

 

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I only watch gamers nexus and hardware unboxed combined that maybe an hour and I actually enjoy watching them, and maybe others if I have nothing else to do

I do watch gamers nexus, but to get a broader sense i go to most verdicts.

No, it really isn’t what everyone does. You do know what the definition of “everyone” is right? Or did you just read the headlines there as well?

Just because the majority can’t read beyond the headline and understand nuance, does not make it OK.

We are getting way off topic with this crap, most people don't have time to hang on to every word they say, people want multiple opinions and they don't sit watching the whole video, they skip to the end.

If, and its a big if, it is happening, my guess is 2pm UK time. That's usually when these things happen. Though as we saw with nvidia 5000 series sometimes it's 2 in the morning

I do think AMD are going to wait until after the RTX 5070 review, i would say Nvidia should troll them by delaying the 5070 but they did that with the 4070 and with that AMD delayed the 7800 XT by 9 months!

 

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that would have sold it the 6700xt reputation as the midlevel darling at the time would have helped that pitch

Its the right pitch, AMD didn't help themselves by idiotically naming it as the replacement for the 6800 XT.

 

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Its just about how much time people have to research, that's all.

 

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Ooo the ocuk 9070 landing page is gone

Maybe they were expecting it sooner too Well in to February

 

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The non DLSS4 results say it all. I had my eye on the 5070Ti but if the value is there on the 9070(XT) I might hop on board here instead.

5070 Ti & 5070 20% Faster Than 4070 Ti & 4070

20%...well there it is, increasingly you're paying for the software.

 

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We've had this before and Nvidia sold in record numbers.

The 4070 was 27% faster than the 3070 for 25% more money, at least this moves the needle on performance per $, right? Everyone be happy.