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And how exactly is it an 'open goal'? Reviews will be what tells the performance story, not what the companies claim.

It is pretty well known that each time Nvidia leave the goal mouths open, by offering products which are marginally better than previous but high priced, or changing the product stack (check the 4070ti which was going to be called the 4080 before public outrage), AMD do this terrible thing by also releasing poor cards and increasing the price to close to Nvidia with less features (poor ray tracing, frame gen not as good etc, or by just having little to no stock available for customers to physically buy.

We'll see what happens, early signs are that AMD may have got things right this gen. I'm just in the mildly hyped train at the mo, preparing to disembark to disappointed platform, due to bad weather but hoping the bad storm will hold off so I can make it to pleasantly pleased ville.
 
It is pretty well known that each time Nvidia leave the goal mouths open, by offering products which are marginally better than previous but high priced, or changing the product stack (check the 4070ti which was going to be called the 4080 before public outrage), AMD do this terrible thing by also releasing poor cards and increasing the price to close to Nvidia with less features (poor ray tracing, frame gen not as good etc, or by just having little to no stock available for customers to physically buy.

We'll see what happens, early signs are that AMD may have got things right this gen. I'm just in the mildly hyped train at the mo, preparing to disembark to disappointed platform, due to bad weather but hoping the bad storm will hold off so I can make it to pleasantly pleased ville.

It's still far from an open goal, amd can usually adjust the price downwards but they only have so much headroom before they're making a loss. That was allegedly the case with vega where every card sold was at a loss to amd, probably something they'd not want to repeat.
 
I really need some leaked card dimensions along with reviews if I was ever going to order day 1. I'm not sure how stock levels are going to be but needing something to fit SFF will probably push out those 3 slots beasts and leave slim pickings (pun not intended).
 
None the wiser lol


Man, I really need to stop wading into the comments section of Videocardz articles... Every time, I lose a couple of IQ points :eek:
 
If the prices are close enough, perhaps AMD just needs to have something with a '70 in the name in stock when people go to upgrade...

All the comments in here about 'they won't sell any if they're one AAA game away from the price in my head' posts make me chuckle
 
I can almost hear AMD say "hold my beer"....

AMD are really good at missing open goals
I know what you mean. But the 50 series is looking so bad it is practically an own goal at this point! Surely even AMD can't mess this one up. 9070XT just needs to come in under the price of the 5070 at this point and match the 5070TI in raster. Realistically 499 quid.
 
I know what you mean. But the 50 series is looking so bad it is practically an own goal at this point! Surely even AMD can't mess this one up. 9070XT just needs to come in under the price of the 5070 at this point and match the 5070TI in raster. Realistically 499 quid.

It's AMD. They'll say nothing much, then release products after nvidia to ensure that most of their potential market has already bought an nvidia card and won't be buying another new card. Probably at a price 5% under a card from nvidia that's worse but almost everyone will think is better because nvidia's very good at marketing. Even when they're blatantly lying, e.g. the claim that a 5070 has the same performance as a 4090. We know that's a lie (it has less than half the processing power!), but it'll fool many potential buyers.

AMD claim they won't mess up the pricing as badly as they did with the 7000 series, but we'll see. Even if they don't, that's only one of the mistakes they make. If they are mistakes. The company that benefits most from AMD maintaining a small presence in the consumer graphics card market is nvidia because it's enough to keep nvidia from being an obvious monopoly in the market. Maybe nvidia is paying AMD to mess up graphics card launches. Or maybe they're doing it all by themselves.
 
An hour or two invested every few years for a purchase worth hundreds/thousands of dollars is well worth it!

The more expensive the product, the more research I do before potentially making a purchase. In this case, following GPU pricing and trends for the past few months... and possibly not even buying anything at the end of it :cry:
 
I know what you mean. But the 50 series is looking so bad it is practically an own goal at this point! Surely even AMD can't mess this one up. 9070XT just needs to come in under the price of the 5070 at this point and match the 5070TI in raster. Realistically 499 quid.

I just can't see that happening. The 9070XT will be more than the 5070 but less than the 5070ti.

I'm just hoping it's closer to the 5070 price than it is to the 5070ti price.

The 9070 will be less than the 5070.

AMD have named the things as such, so unless they get mega aggressive on price I can't see it being as low as £500.
 
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I just can't see that happening. The 9070XT will be more than the 5070 but less than the 5070ti.

I'm just hoping it's closer to the 5070 price than it is to the 5070ti price.

The 9070 will be less than the 5070.

AMD have named the things as such, so unless they get mega aggressive on price I can't see it being anything else.

This is my logic as well. AMD are positioning the RDNA lineup as below:

5070Ti to 9070 XT
5070 to 9070

So given their “not the budget brand” declaration, why would AMD price the 5070Ti competitor below the 5070? The logical conclusion is that they will literally see that they have a GPU that is faster than a 5070 with 4GB extra VRAM, so will price it higher.

So they will either learn nothing and price the 9070 XT at £650 - £700. Or if they have finally let it sink in that “yes you are the ******* budget brand” and if you want to regain market share you will price it at £550 or less.

Let’s find out together if AMD finally got the message from their continued drop in market share over the past 3 or 4 generations of insisting on, “not being the budget brand”.

My money is now shifting towards AMD continuing their stupid and greedy trend.
 
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If they get mega aggressive with price this launch, where does that leave them next time? The accountants won't allow them to set it too low.
 
If they get mega aggressive with price this launch, where does that leave them next time? The accountants won't allow them to set it too low.

Nobody is saying set it too low. The 9070 XT and 9070 are the 7800 XT and 7700 XT replacements. They are rumoured to be about 30% - 35% faster in raster and a lot faster in RT. So coming in at those pricing segments and tiers would be perfect.

The problem is if the 5000 series is actually as underwhelming as initial indications show, then might AMD get greedy? Hey we thought our 9070 XT was only going to compete with a 5070, but it almost competes with a 5070Ti… we can raise our prices.

To anyone with a bit of sense it is obvious Nvidia have raised the stack yet again and then dropped prices on the 80 and below to dupe the usual useful idiots in to thinking “yay Nvidia”.
 
Who's realistically buying any of these gpus before benchmark reviews are released? I'm guessing AMD aren't using DDR7 either ?

Do you think AMD might pull a blinder here and up the 9070xt to 18gb of ram ?
 
Couple of examples above prove how Jensen has brainwashed people.. ridiculous.

Nobody is saying set it too low. The 9070 XT and 9070 are the 7800 XT and 7700 XT replacements. They are rumoured to be about 30% - 35% faster in raster and a lot faster in RT. So coming in at those pricing segments and tiers would be perfect.

^ This!

Last time they did only mid tier was 5700XT right?

Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT (AIB card) was £399 (which I paid on OcUK) and people are saying they will pay £600+ this time around?

Sad times if 9070XT turns up at over £500.
 
Couple of examples above prove how Jensen has brainwashed people.. ridiculous.



^ This!

Last time they did only mid tier was 5700XT right?

Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT (AIB card) was £399 (which I paid on OcUK) and people are saying they will pay £600+ this time around?

Sad times if 9070XT turns up at over £500.

With inflation, then £400 in 2019 would be about £530 now. Remember inflation is cumulative.
 
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With exchange rate adjustments (significantly weaker pound) and inflation, then £550 would be about right.

If thats the price, I end up getting the non XT or wait for price drops/offers :)

Dont know why I should have to pay stupid money just to run a PC I play one game on and Dj from, I dont need all this DLSS/FSR/FG/MFG crap.

They need to make cheaper cards that dont have those feature like this 3060Ti version I have, LHR Model?

Then they get my purchase without any complaints as long as they're affordable to normal people.
 
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