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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
HUB confirmed AMD is pricing based on Nvidia:

So basically AMD can't just give us 30% to 40% extra performance over a £480 RX7800XT then? How does that need Nvidia for them to make a decision.

So expect if the RTX5070 is rubbish,the price to be jacked up,or if it is good the price to lower.
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not really confirming anything is it. Just HUB voicing an opinion.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
At least this means that when AMD do release the cards in March that there's no reason there won't be plenty of stock to go around. No pre-ordering, no sitting around with credit card in hand at 2pm hitting refresh so you can get one, all retailers should have stock for days.

Of course if they don't and they sell out of what they have in the first few hours and then have to wait for more stock anyone not buying on day 1 might have to wait until April (depending on when in March they go on sale).
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But Nvidia's entire stack will be out.
The prospective buyers that aren't tied into AMD will have already bought a card.


Obviously they'll get sales from people upgrading throughout its lifetime, but you won't get that same rush you'd normally get.

I mean, it sounds like AMD could have beaten Nvidia to the punch with a launch.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
HUB confirmed AMD is pricing based on Nvidia:

So basically AMD can't just give us 30% to 40% extra performance over a £480 RX7800XT then? How does that need Nvidia for them to make a decision.

So expect if the RTX5070 is rubbish,the price to be jacked up,or if it is good the price to lower.
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Why do AMD need to wait 3 months after Nvidia launch to decide pricing? this doesn't make any sense.
 
loonyk said:
isn't that the price fixing? that market is f*d
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It's a mess. I'm no economist but what we are looking at right now in the GPU market is probably not very far from a de facto monopoly. Nvidia can put out their products and set prices without worrying about the competition. They don't need to worry about them. Whereas AMD rename their products to sound like Nvidias and then literally have to pay retailers to sit on their stock rather than release them before or at the same time as the cards they are named after. As consumers, we've got it bad right now. I think that's one of the biggest factors behind people hoping that AMD were going to come good this gen. Their capitulation has been stupefying to behold.
 
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Martini1991 said:
I mean, it sounds like AMD could have beaten Nvidia to the punch with a launch.
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It completely looks like they were geared up and ready too but someone or some group has bottled it.

It's likely a number of factors, but they have decided to take a less risky approach I guess. Take the hit on it being out late but get it out with the latest FSR and at a "competitive" price.
 
Grim5 said:
This is weird, retailers have already received 9070XT stock and now AMD adds a two month delay? What for!?
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They are afraid they might sell a GPU or two if they release them before people have had plenty of time to get bored of waiting and just buy something from Nvidia.
 
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Releasing earlier than Nvidia also means they don't need to care what the 5070/5070ti actually are until the month they actually arrive and get reviewed.

They can look at the 4090 and assume at best the 5080 will match it in raw performance (And it probably won't)
 
ZG002 said:
It completely looks like they were geared up and ready too but someone or some group has bottled it.

It's likely a number of factors, but they have decided to take a less risky approach I guess. Take the hit on it being out late but get it out with the latest FSR and at a "competitive" price.
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They did have fsr 4 being shown as a work in progress so its possible they want that to look as good as it can. Though sending cards out in January for them to gather dust until March makes no sense. There was also talk about low stock for some of the 50 series so maybe they're gambling that'll be the case and anyone wanting to get a 70 tier of card will wait.
 
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humbug said:
You know what it really is.... they want to sell out RX 7000 stock before releasing new cards, that's the thinking behind it....
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I was having a look at 7900XT/XTX earlier, there's not like there's oodles of them.

But why would anyone buy those products now (I was in fact hoping for some sort of price drop for say the 7900XTX)
 
humbug said:
You know what it really is.... they want to sell out RX 7000 stock before releasing new cards, that's the thinking behind it....
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Very short term thinking tho- they want to disrupt the market, gain market share and then come back for the big time in a year- not sure they’re up to anything at the minute.
 
humbug said:
You know what it really is.... they want to sell out RX 7000 stock before releasing new cards, that's the thinking behind it....
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If you're heavy into sniffing exhaust fumes maybe, who's gonna buy a 7 series when they know new cards are close? You think there's gonna be a stampede of people waving their wallets screaming from the rafters "GIMME THAT OLD TECH"?

Yeah, doubting it,.
 
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