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gpuerrilla said:
It is comical to be fair. Also we pointed out that the usual release happens around September so both these companies have already had an extra three months to mess about and paper launch.
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I am getting the impression these companies are artificially creating scarcity to jack pricing up. Just blatant market manipulation now - wonder if they will use the Trump tariffs as an excuse? They saw what happened during the Pandemic and it worked! :(
 
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Game said:
the 7800xt is the best selling midrange on rainforest .com/.de/.co.uk so there must be something in it

I expected it to be the 4070s
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Yeah I looked back over the stats they had for other quarters and the 7800XT is consistently one of the highest sellers every quarter. The 4070 does well too, sometimes outselling the 7800XT but it's usually close. I think Nvidia had more high selling cards though, AMD didn't have much else close to the 7800XT a lot of the time where as Nvidia had 2 or 3 cards with high numbers (although there was more variation in which cards).

Regarding the whole Nvidia stock levels being low, we don't know how low and also we don't know that AMD stock levels are any better. They should be, at least by launch, but all we know is that retailers have stock, as far as I know we don't know how much stock they have and what is considered a decent amount. Considering the marketshare is 9:1 in favour of Nvidia, Nvidia could have 5x the amount of stock that AMD has and it would be problematic at those ratios. But if the 5070 series and 9070 series were to sell about 50:50 then Nvidia having 5x the stock of AMD would mean that AMD had more stock problems.
 
Trump made a whole bunch of mad speeches yesterday and he mentioned VAT, calling it a tariff (he's right BTW, it is) he said it was unfair.
 
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ICDP said:
VAT is not a tariff and if you think it is you are wrong and so is Trump.
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Its a Tax on product, including imported products, which is by far the majority of products consumed, in whatever way the UK government justify it it has the same effect and when you're talking about trading partners boiling it down to that is IMO fair, if the government likes it or not.
 
In the context we are talking about tariffs are a way to promote/protect domestic industries and services. They are not aimed at gaining tax revenues.

VAT is a source of revenue for the government.
 
What an ugly looking GPU..

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The reason why i think this matters is IMO this country over spends, has done for a long time and it never thinks the public are taxed enough to pay for that over spend which only ever gets worse.

VAT is one of those things that the UK government will inevitably at some point see to gain more tax revenue from, anything outside of basic needs has VAT on it, the UK's mindset is; well luxuries are luxuries, you don't need them for life so you can give us some money every time you treat yourself.
I think that is dystopian and it actually is a regressive tax.

If you're paying £600 for a GPU £100 of it is not for the product, its for Mrs Reeves to spend on policing X or some other BS, with Trump's disapproving eye on VAT it might make her think twice about jacking VAT up under the threat of 25% tariffs on Jaguar cars.
 
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MyBrainz said:
What an ugly looking GPU..

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Tbh it's more interesting that 80% of the other slabs of dark plastic
 
MyBrainz said:
What an ugly looking GPU..

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Yeston Radeon RX 9070 XT Sakura Atlantis pictured some more - VideoCardz.com

Sakura Atlantis RX 9070 XT gets official close up pictures Yeston is showing new photos of its RX 9070 card, perhaps they didn’t get the memo when it should launch. Yes, the Radeon RX 9070 isn’t coming anytime soon. AMD officially confirmed that the new RDNA4 series will be available in March...
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Does it matter what it looks like? If it benchmarks well...
 
Firegod said:
I await the threads to appear for "where is my Nvidia card. Where am I in the queue. Stock updates from gibbo... ". We know retailers have the AMD stock as they are working out how AMD are going to reimburse them for pricing differences. And because people will believe a 5070 will give 4090 performance, I think those that are waiting for a 9070, are safe.
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Surprisingly, when I asked about AMD stock on the other thread, Gibbo himself replied to my post saying the AMD GPUs are not much better in with how many there are. Now (according to rumours) they already have some cards, but probably similar amount to total RTX5000 stock.

Just remember that AMD is no stranger to stock shortages on launch, heck it's like a tradition for them at this point. I recall so many AMD releases in the past decade with not that many cards available at launch.

Now this delay on the other hand... as we've all been saying is an opportunity from AMD (should they wish to not fall flat on their face). They can provide more stock to the retailers before the actual launch so that there's at least some GPUs for folks to buy. Idk how the wholesale part of it works, but if the rumours about existing stock being sold to retailers at high prices is true, surely they could give a significant discount on the next shipment to reimburse the retailers for the initial high shipment and average down, to support whatever RRP they want to set. Or maybe it doesn't work that way and the AMD GPUs will launch above RRP with still poor availability.

Even if these new AMD GPUs turn out to be worth buying, I doubt buying day around the launch window will be worth the hassle. Better to wait for the dust and stock to settle before buying. Or if more patient, wait till sales later on in the year, if folks trust these will go down in price so soon after launch.
 
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