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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

This.

The thread is entitled the AMD RDNA4 RUMOUR MILL, which is clearly why we have been focusing on AMD.

Search for phrases such as "open goal" to see what people in the main think of Nvidia's 50 series.

Speaking for myself, at least, I don't have shares in either company, nor am I deluded enough to believe that they care about me. Nor am I projecting some kind of mythological narrative on to the market whereby AMD is the plucky underdog and Nvidia is the evil empire. A few people seem to get upset and defensive when AMD are criticised but I don't think we see things in the same way. I don't care about these companies, I just want a good product and service, at a reasonable price. Thankfully, my identity is not dependent on the badge on my GPU, or on any product I own (or don't own).

Again, the reason why people are expressing frustration with AMD's dissapointing GPU showing at CES is because the bar has been set so low by Nvidia who don't even seem to care anymore about gaming. All this recent story has done is expose how profoundly deprioritised the Gaming GPU market has become, and therefore how much bigger the open goal is for AMD.
You're right, but the amount of hyperbole and catastrophising over a launch delay is a bit OTT. AMD don't need to show their hand yet.

There will be plenty of time for hand-wringing and bed-wetting when an announcement is made and reviews are out.
 
It is comical to be fair. Also we pointed out that the usual release happens around September so both these companies have already had an extra three months to mess about and paper launch.

I am getting the impression these companies are artificially creating scarcity to jack pricing up. Just blatant market manipulation now - wonder if they will use the Trump tariffs as an excuse? They saw what happened during the Pandemic and it worked! :(
 
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the 7800xt is the best selling midrange on rainforest .com/.de/.co.uk so there must be something in it

I expected it to be the 4070s
Yeah I looked back over the stats they had for other quarters and the 7800XT is consistently one of the highest sellers every quarter. The 4070 does well too, sometimes outselling the 7800XT but it's usually close. I think Nvidia had more high selling cards though, AMD didn't have much else close to the 7800XT a lot of the time where as Nvidia had 2 or 3 cards with high numbers (although there was more variation in which cards).

Regarding the whole Nvidia stock levels being low, we don't know how low and also we don't know that AMD stock levels are any better. They should be, at least by launch, but all we know is that retailers have stock, as far as I know we don't know how much stock they have and what is considered a decent amount. Considering the marketshare is 9:1 in favour of Nvidia, Nvidia could have 5x the amount of stock that AMD has and it would be problematic at those ratios. But if the 5070 series and 9070 series were to sell about 50:50 then Nvidia having 5x the stock of AMD would mean that AMD had more stock problems.
 
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