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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I tend to prefer value for money myself. So gravitated towards AMD/ATI over Nvidia/Intel. Although I did get in an argument with people when AMD jacked up the prices of Zen3 - I think I was implied to be an Intel fan! :cry:

Personally,all these companies seem to be trying to ape each other,on how much they can rip-off the customer. It's got worse and worse since 2020. It's why I made sure that every part I bought during the Pandemic was RRP and under. If not I did without - people paying all these scalpers prices was only going to tell these companies they needed to charge more.




I am more concerned about the Trump tariffs and whether both these companies will use that as an excuse to jack up prices. Despite all the flowery language none of them have any real respect for most gamers IMHO.

That is why I am concerned with the "delays" from both companies. Just blame Trump. Profit.

You see it with AAA game releases too. They seem to think gamers are whales who will pay any price. Unfortunately I think enough are there for them to get away with it! :(
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I dunno we will see on the tariffs I don't see hit having much impact TBH, If anything I think companies will divert more to EU, UK and other countries to shift stock easier after the initial launch.

AAA prices will go up with GTAVI companies are waiting for it.
 
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kieran_read said:
I dunno we will see on the tariffs I don't see hit having much impact TBH, If anything I think companies will divert more to EU, UK and other countries to **** stock easier after the initial launch.

AAA prices will go up with GTAVI companies are waiting for it.
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Problem is we saw during the Pandemic,the amount of spin which was used to jack up pricing. Even after the Pandemic,more spin to do the same despite many parts falling massively in price. That is my big worry with how they will frame it. Enthusiasts will be more savvy,but will most gamers be?
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Problem is we saw during the Pandemic,the amount of spin which was used to jack up pricing. Even after the Pandemic,more spin to do the same despite many parts falling massively in price. That is my big worry with how they will frame it. Enthusiasts will be more savvy,but will most gamers be?
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I think it's different now though.

People are spending less in general, the 5000 series will be no where near the jump 3000-4000 there's a general feeling of we're getting screwed by companies globally. There's been more of a uptick in dissatisfaction there's not been enough games out that really push GPUs, a lot more people are skipping multiple generations. When you factor in the luke warm reception of the 5090 reviews, (which the rest of the 5000 series will be lacking more) I really don't think it will work this time.

We had it last time with scalpers on the 4000 series selling them at/below cost not long after launch because they weren't selling, Nvidia literally had to re-release the 4080 as a 4080 super and lower the cost as it wasn't selling well.

They may try but I think prices will settle reasonable quickly.

The biggest problem will be artificial shortages imo.
 
kieran_read said:
I think it's different now though.

People are spending less in general, the 5000 series will be no where near the jump 3000-4000 there's a general feeling of we're getting screwed by companies globally. There's been more of a uptick in dissatisfaction there's not been enough games out that really push GPUs, a lot more people are skipping multiple generations. When you factor in the luke warm reception of the 5090 reviews, (which the rest of the 5000 series will be lacking more) I really don't think it will work this time.

We had it last time with scalpers on the 4000 series selling them at/below cost not long after launch because they weren't selling, Nvidia literally had to re-release the 4080 as a 4080 super and lower the cost as it wasn't selling well.

They may try but I think prices will settle reasonable quickly.

The biggest problem will be artificial shortages imo.
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The problem is have both these companies got the memo? I just feel they are trying a fast one on us.
 
kieran_read said:
The answer is yes they are... the next question is will people fall for it?

Probably also yes...
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This is why people needed to give them ideas during the Pandemic!

Did you see my post above? March 23rd for pre-orders. That retailer previously had pre-orders for this week when the card was supposed to launch.

Two months away! Nvidia would have launched their entire RTX5000 series before you can actually buy a card! :cry:
 
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humbug said:
2 months from now, near 3 months after announcement.
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Two months for a pre-order. So end of March pre-order then probably April for actual stock.

That is assuming AMD doesn't try another RX7900XT and then you need to wait a few months for the price to fall to what it should be.

All those E-PEEN coolers,3 x PCI-E power connectors and ARGB doesn't pay for itself,don't you know?
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Two months for a pre-order. So end of March pre-order then probably April for actual stock.

That is assuming AMD doesn't try another RX7900XT and then you need to wait a few months for the price to fall to what it should be.

All those E-PEEN coolers,3 x PCI-E power connectors and ARGB doesn't pay for itself,don't you know?
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I'm seeing a number of tech jurnoes making excuses for this now, it being that putting these out before AMD know all about the competing cards would be foolish.

1, they did this with the last generation and that didn't work out well for them.
2, you would only do this if you're trying to maximise the price against the competition instead of just putting forward your best deal.

If what they are doing is wanting to make sure the hardware, the drivers and FSR 4 are as polished as can reasonably be then i get it, but they clearly intended to launch before the 5070 / Ti and very suddenly slammed the breaks on, so i don't buy this argument, i think AMD wanted to charge more, i think they thought the 5070 was going to be at least $600, possibly more and immediately realised their GPU was going to cost the same or more, they though they knew what was going on and quickly learned they didn't, so now they want to know what they are actually up against before deciding on their own products.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
I will admit, I did (until recently) think of you as one of the red team die-hards.

I see on Twitter/X there are posts saying that AMD cards will be live for preorder in March. If there's already stock at retailers why will it be preorders?

I will admit that I'm getting increasingly unhyped for both Nvidia and AMD launches. 12GB should probably be reserved for the lowest tier of cards at this point, I'm not even thrilled by the prospect of 16GB, which seems to be all that's on offer outside of the 5090.
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Chill with these labels, its immature, people with a bit of wisdom about them don't think like this.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Two months for a pre-order. So end of March pre-order then probably April for actual stock.

That is assuming AMD doesn't try another RX7900XT and then you need to wait a few months for the price to fall to what it should be.

All those E-PEEN coolers,3 x PCI-E power connectors and ARGB doesn't pay for itself,don't you know?
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I mean that's the other thing isn't it? Do we dare buy the cards at launch or do we have to wait 6 months for the prices to drop so you don't feel ripped off? Are these AMD cards a September purchase?
 
KNiVES said:
We poop on AMD a lot, but the fact that you can go from 1600 to 5700X3D on the same board is immense, you don't see that very often.
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Yeah I was surprised myself.

I built my PC in 2017 as I wasn't happy with my PS4. Then I got the PS5 and stopped paying attention to PC. Recently I wasn't really satisfied with the PS5 and thought about getting the PS5 Pro...but seeing how it basically had the same CPU as the 5, I started to look into PC again and was surprised to learn I didn't have to start from scratch and could just get a new CPU, GPU and extra ram.
 
StarShock said:
These are the same people that had the 23rd of January pre-order date. I bet they just changed January to March cos amd said March.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Someone on Anandtech was browsing an American retailer and saw a March 23rd date for pre-orders:
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It’s some placeholder nonsense. A quick check on the day in the screenshot shows Sun, 23rd March. Nobody does preorders on a Sunday, especially not in America.
 
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