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I'm also left wondering, does Nvidia even care?
If AMD priced their cards really well would Nvidia feel the need to lower their prices or would they just leave it go and use lack of sales as a reason to dedicate more resource to its commercial AI business?

It feels like if AMD really do want to gain marketshare, Nvidia isn't bothered enough to try to stop them.

The question is what performance do AMD actually have and how much are they going to charge. It's not just about performance/price, performance by itself does matter.
You know if the 5090 had been released and was a little shy of 4070 performance but was only $175, it'd be great performance for the price but people do need/want a certain level of performance too.
They had 17% wiped of their value earlier in the week :cry:
 
I have a feeling the 5070ti are all gonna end up being £800 + regardless of the msrp. But if amd price against that its going to be a mess. Everyone will parrot $750 vs what ever amd are charging and it will look ****.

Part of me is thinking about jumping on a 7900xtx before those are gone
 
I have a feeling the 5070ti are all gonna end up being £800 + regardless of the msrp. But if amd price against that its going to be a mess. Everyone will parrot $750 vs what ever amd are charging and it will look ****.

Part of me is thinking about jumping on a 7900xtx before those are gone

RT & FSR4 aside, I doubt there's going to be much reason for buyers remorse if grabbing a 7900 XT/XTX at clearance prices.

The only worry I have is that mandatory RT could become ever more common. Fast forward to 2027, could the majority of big releases depend on RT performance?
 
RT & FSR4 aside, I doubt there's going to be much reason for buyers remorse if grabbing a 7900 XT/XTX at clearance prices.

The only worry I have is that mandatory RT could become ever more common. Fast forward to 2027, could the majority of big releases depend on RT performance?
Games will still need to run on the consoles, even the rt mandatory games, you can turn off most of the effects, so until the ps6 probably fine.
 
RT & FSR4 aside, I doubt there's going to be much reason for buyers remorse if grabbing a 7900 XT/XTX at clearance prices.

The only worry I have is that mandatory RT could become ever more common. Fast forward to 2027, could the majority of big releases depend on RT performance?
I keep thinking this was tempted with a 7800xt but the performance is not on par
 
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Ant see too many games doing mandatory RT when the console are still complete trash at RT

Also,the shrinkflation in the mainstream,when the most popular RT capable cards are the RTX3060 and RTX4060. The PS5 PRO is faster than both of them.

I am doubtful an RTX5060TI will even match an RTX4070 and even if it is around the same level as a PS5 PRO.

Believe me, I'm a guitarist and the same thing happens on guitar forums - people justify £3-4k on a Les Paul Standard because it "retains it's value". The difference between that and consumer electronics is that a guitar is nearly always just as good in 30 years as the day you bought it
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£1000 on a Guitar sounds a better deal than £1000 on a graphics card which will be out of date in 4 years.

It's why I only care about price/performance with graphics cards. A good CPU can last you much longer than a graphics card. Graphics cards are far easier to implement planned obsolescence on than any other component.
 
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Well looks like I may be back in for a 9700XT as my youngest came moaning about needing a new card for Nightreign. Silly to buy a new one when he can buy my 7900GRE at family rates. Was going AM5 build anyway this year so figure I will do the whole lot. Roll on March, honestly now think I will bite if reviews are good and the nitro comes in around £700.

PS - had to post as had made the 1000 posts for MM only for it to be snatched away for an old post I made being removed :-S
 
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Games will still need to run on the consoles, even the rt mandatory games, you can turn off most of the effects, so until the ps6 probably fine.
It doesn't matter if they have to run on consoles because it's still about the performance difference between GPUs and even with SW Lumen NV GPUs still see an advantage over AMD's, so whatever good standing they would normally have in raster shrinks, therefore they become worse relative to NV. Plus, we now see Unreal moving to default to HW Lumen and that's going to hit AMD even harder. Besides, even in titles that are optimised and created around RDNA 2 RT once they come to PC Nvidia still dominates (Metro Exodus EE, the Insomniac games, the Massive games, etc.). That's without taking into account the times where devs decide between who to optimise for and choose Nvidia and penalise AMD GPUs in the process even tho they had something more tailored to RDNA on consoles (this happened with Alan Wake 2).
 
Well looks like I may be back in for a 9700XT as my youngest came moaning about needing a new card for Nightreign. Silly to buy a new one when he can buy my 7900GRE at family rates. Was going AM5 build anyway this year so figure I will do the whole lot. Roll on March, honestly now think I will bite if reviews are good and the nitro comes in around £700.

PS - had to post as had made the 1000 posts for MM only for it to be snatched away for an old post I made being removed :-S
Seems we all got nerfed on some posts made a few pages back about competitors being mentioned but I don't recall mentioning any. Oops
 
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As someone with no interest in RT but now having to pay attention to it because of game requirements, isn't it a case of not all RT being the same? That some RT effects have a lower hit to performance than others.
its upgrade by stealth fueled to increase sales a very dirty trick

but you are right Rt in call of duty is a button but I cant tell the difference and it made a minimal hit on performance
 
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