my 6700xt Nitro is a well build card smaller than that but tripple fan and ott cooling never once heard the fans in nearly 4 years
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The irony is AMD don’t think they keep missing those open goals. They think they have scored. So I am expecting to be disappointed on AMD pricing if they can tweak performance given Nvidia’s poor showing of the 5000 range (yes I include the 5090).
Nvidia up their prices and raise the mid range up a tier on prices, so we expect (demand even) AMD to deliver better value. AMD see the goal is open for them to price higher as well. They shoot, they score and we are all WTF.
Nvidia release the worst generation uplift in possibly ever, they get roundly panned by the tech press and the vast majority of enthusiasts. We expect AMD to release a competitive GPU at a much lower price than Nvidia… but AMD see an open goal to “increase prices”. They shoot, they score.
AMD were expecting not to compete at the high end this gen. We know they aimed for “mid range” 4080 like performance. Instead Ngreedia have released such a **** poor generation that barely moved the high end needle, and that has taken AMD by surprise.
So AMD delay so they can up their power targets, OC to within an inch of their lives and suddenly they have a GPU that doesn’t just compete with The **** poor 5070 series, but craps on them and could get close to the utterly mediocre 5080.
They aren’t doing that to give us more card for our money, they are doing it to maximise profit after Ngreedia gave them an open goal.
We just have different ideas of what the goal is compared to AMD.
Nvidia up their prices and raise the mid range up a tier on prices, so we expect (demand even) AMD to deliver better value. AMD see the goal is open for them to price higher as well. They shoot, they score and we are all WTF.
Nvidia release the worst generation uplift in possibly ever, they get roundly panned by the tech press and the vast majority of enthusiasts. We expect AMD to release a competitive GPU at a much lower price than Nvidia… but AMD see an open goal to “increase prices”. They shoot, they score.
AMD were expecting not to compete at the high end this gen. We know they aimed for “mid range” 4080 like performance. Instead Ngreedia have released such a **** poor generation that barely moved the high end needle, and that has taken AMD by surprise.
So AMD delay so they can up their power targets, OC to within an inch of their lives and suddenly they have a GPU that doesn’t just compete with The **** poor 5070 series, but craps on them and could get close to the utterly mediocre 5080.
They aren’t doing that to give us more card for our money, they are doing it to maximise profit after Ngreedia gave them an open goal.
We just have different ideas of what the goal is compared to AMD.
They do score though.. Problem is they are own goals.
10% market share is winning!
If it matches DLSS3 (or even gets close) it will be good enough not to matter. All those tech sites and “enthusiasts” calling DLSS 3 “better than native” have set the bar.
I couldn’t care less what tech sites have said, I was speaking on a personal level. There’s a new bar been set now anyway and it’s not just the IQ, it’s the performance uplift from being able to use balanced or performance without it looking a mess.
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I'm going back and forth on what to get. Made my own little sheet to keep track of prices of the GPUs in the performance brackets I'm interested in, 16 gigs and higher.
XTX performance preferable, but the better deal within performance target is more important. So fare the 7900 XT and the 4070 ti super don't look to bad as close performance alternatives to the XTX .
XTX performance preferable, but the better deal within performance target is more important. So fare the 7900 XT and the 4070 ti super don't look to bad as close performance alternatives to the XTX .
people on here who will argue that till they are blue in the face
I’m agreeing with you, because DLSS was only ever better than native because native was terrible to begin with with. There are even times FSR looks better than native.
I’m trying to point out the hypocrisy of the tech sites and a lot of “enthusiasts”.
TAA should just vanish and disappear. God I hate TAA with a passion.
If the morons at AMD price this wrong again I might never buy AMD again
. Right now I have all AMD system for gaming and after what Nvidia has done to the PC gaming this time round makes me want to even consider Intel as a alternative for my PC gaming. This has to be one of the worst time to buy with regards to price/performance ever, well since ever I can remember.
I would wait for the 9070XT and see how that performs but for me it would be between 7900xtx or 9070xt. 5080 is over priced for that it delivers, would seriously wait for AMD to drop their stuff first and then make a choice.
. Right now I have all AMD system for gaming and after what Nvidia has done to the PC gaming this time round makes me want to even consider Intel as a alternative for my PC gaming. This has to be one of the worst time to buy with regards to price/performance ever, well since ever I can remember.I'm going back and forth on what to get. Made my own little sheet to keep track of prices of the GPUs in the performance brackets I'm interested in, 16 gigs and higher.
XTX performance preferable, but the better deal within performance target is more important. So fare the 7900 XT and the 4070 ti super don't look to bad as close performance alternatives to the XTX .
I would wait for the 9070XT and see how that performs but for me it would be between 7900xtx or 9070xt. 5080 is over priced for that it delivers, would seriously wait for AMD to drop their stuff first and then make a choice.
I’m not sure if you have tried the new DLSS 4 yet but we are seeing the same sites and suspects calling it a “game changer”. Suddenly all the issues with upscaling are being acknowledged that were previously “hand waved” away.
My test in Jedi Survivor and with Hogwarts show an improvement, but at 4K going to performance and below does still bring issues. Extreme aliasing where the source resolution is just far too low, some artefacts as you pan etc.
So yes an improvement and in many ways I would describe it as bringing each setting up a notch. So for me balanced is more like quality etc. so yes you get a free uplift in performance.
It is good and all kudos to Nvidia for raising the bar and even more for not locking it behind a hardware paywall.
Though if FSR 4 is indeed much improved it will be close enough to be make AMD a consideration.
Try it yourself and decide if the hyperbole about it being a “game changer” are true, or just the usual BS.
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I'm going back and forth on what to get. Made my own little sheet to keep track of prices of the GPUs in the performance brackets I'm interested in, 16 gigs and higher.
XTX performance preferable, but the better deal within performance target is more important. So fare the 7900 XT and the 4070 ti super don't look to bad as close performance alternatives to the XTX .
Just wait a bit longer is my advice. Worse comes to worse the EOL stock will see a price drop once RDNA 4 is released.
I’ve tried it across multiple titles and it’s much improved. The model is also new and from what I’ve heard can be trained faster than the older CNN model. I’d be very surprised if AMD can get anywhere close but I’ll try and keep an open mind.
Yes it’s improved. But my point is if FSR4 matches DLSS3 the delta will be closer than it is currently between DLS3 and FSR3. The same seems to be the case with RT performance, in that RDNA4 looks to have significantly lowered the delta between Nvidia and AMD.
So if both cases are true, then AMD have reduced or potentially removed the reasons to stick with Nvidia.
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AMDs version of winning includes crushing their whole GPU division. Maybe they want and they score every time
My point is that it’s a big if and by the time it’s released the new Transformer model from nvidia will have likely already improved.
What I’m asking for is for them to be priced right, a much improved FSR and RT performance. Given their track record, I can’t see all three happening.
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