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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

I have a 2060, because that was about the only thing I could find during the pandemic, when my pc was killed by lightning.

My promise to buy something better "when things calm down a little" has lasted 4 years. I'm tired of waiting.
Unless you want to go for the x90 model then feel free to buy at any time, since that's the only one seeing real jumps (even for price/perf). In fact if you don't mind buying second-hand it's a good time for such deals.
 
TBH I'm feeling pretty optimistic about the AMD launch.

I'm after a card of the 4080/7900xtx level but just didn't want to pay the prices. The current XTX prices of 800-900 and the 4080 prices of 900-1000 is what I feel both cards should have been priced at, at launch.

I think if AMD had this pricing they would have been sold out the entire generation it's the price it should be, now if the RDNA4 launch come at at least 7900xtx performance or better at a 600-800 range I think they will be in for a real winner. No they're not going to compete with Nvidia as they will be 1000+ for both the 80 and 90 class and AMD are not going to enter that market. But I also suspect Nvidia will push 700-800 for the 70 class this time, with 500+ on the 60 class cards. It's an opportunity for AMD to actually go for market share and I'd happily buy a 7900xtx refresh at a 8800xt name sake for 600-800 range. If they go lower even better, (I think they need to, just to gain market share and help bring more competition to the market)

The fact the 7900xtx is now priced what it is leads me to believe the 8XXX series should come under that price, if they try to match it, it will be same old story with AMD.
 
..now if the RDNA4 launch come at at least 7900xtx performance or better at a 600-800 range I think they will be in for a real winner.

Only rumours but if you simplify it to being at best 7900XT raster but 2x its RT performance it might not be a bad option. Of course this all depends on price. 800 launch price for them seems about par for the course. Apparently the current issue is they have too much inventory to shift or RDNA3.
 
AMD's earnings call was today. Results were not as good as expected so the share price fell 6 or 8%. And AMD is not bullish on future gaming revenue.

But Lisa did make an announcement about rdna4. She said they will launch new RDNA4 GPUs in early 2025 and Lisa went on to say RDNA4 has significantly higher Ray Tracing performance and has new AI features that RDNA3 does not have
 
Unless you want to go for the x90 model then feel free to buy at any time, since that's the only one seeing real jumps (even for price/perf). In fact if you don't mind buying second-hand it's a good time for such deals.
Not really. Either by AMD, which seemed weirdly broken this gen... or Nvidia, and be locked out of the next dlss version because I don't have the latest and greatest.

No, waiting seems better?
 
AMD's earnings call was today. Results were not as good as expected so the share price fell 6 or 8%. And AMD is not bullish on future gaming revenue.

But Lisa did make an announcement about rdna4. She said they will launch new RDNA4 GPUs in early 2025 and Lisa went on to say RDNA4 has significantly higher Ray Tracing performance and has new AI features that RDNA3 does not have

Strange..... AMD beat estimates, currently rated 'buy' due to strong datacentre, 125% growth this year and expected to grow 45% next year, if that's true it would put AMD datacentre share at between 45 to 50% by the end of next year.

I think some people write the narrative they would have liked to have seen, they do that all the time in that world because they have competing interests.
But the facts are the numbers, the numbers have no elegances and AMD's numbers are good.

They are 4% up, on to of a few % up ever the last couple of days.

 
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Not really. Either by AMD, which seemed weirdly broken this gen... or Nvidia, and be locked out of the next dlss version because I don't have the latest and greatest.

No, waiting seems better?

RDNA 3 was overpriced, or the 7900 XT certainly was, FSR isn't as good as DLSS and nor is RT, with that tech jurnoes had a real downer on RDNA 3.

That gave the impression it was a bad GPU, a failed generation, while this mood around them was not unjustified, i agree with those specifics the GPU by its own merits is in my view really good, i have an RX 7800 XT, had for 9 months now, its a lovely GPU with fantastic drivers, it runs all my games beautifully, like warm butter, somehow it even manages to smooth out and stabilise the horrendous mess that currently is Star Citizen very much Alpha testing, from what i can tell it runs it more stable and better than equivalent Nvidia GPU's.

This is the first GPU i have had in many years that's been so well behaved i have entirely forgotten its there, there are valid criticisms, but i wont have "broken"

It might not be as good in some aspects, but it is well designed and well engineered, its very dependable, there is more to these products than plugin features.
 
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AMD's earnings call was today. Results were not as good as expected so the share price fell 6 or 8%. And AMD is not bullish on future gaming revenue.

But Lisa did make an announcement about rdna4. She said they will launch new RDNA4 GPUs in early 2025 and Lisa went on to say RDNA4 has significantly higher Ray Tracing performance and has new AI features that RDNA3 does not have
Without software, it won't matter too much (probably).
 
RDNA 3 was overpriced, or the 7900 XT certainly was, FSR isn't as good as DLSS and nor is RT, with that tech jurnoes had a real downer on RDNA 3.

That gave the impression it was a bad GPU, a failed generation, while this mood around them was not unjustified, i agree with those specifics the GPU by its own merits is in my view really good, i have an RX 7800 XT, had for 9 months now, its a lovely GPU with fantastic drivers, it runs all my games beautifully, like warm butter, somehow it even manages to smooth out and stabilise the horrendous mess that currently is Star Citizen very much Alpha testing, from what i can tell it runs it more stable and better than equivalent Nvidia GPU's.

This is the first GPU i have had in many years that's been so well behaved i have entirely forgotten its there, there are valid criticisms, but i wont have "broken"

It might not be as good in some aspects, but it is well designed and well engineered, its very dependable, there is more to these products than plugin features.
Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. Both my RX6800 and 7900GRE have been the most hassle free GPUs I have ever owned. I cannot think of a single issue with them in the 4 years I have owned both.
 
Yeah just waiting for someone to strip open the ps5 pro and see whats really on that... if its any indication for this rounds RT and its version of dlss tech.

All they'll find is disappointment I'd wager. If you look at the results released so far for the games with RT it's not far off from a 7700XT. The PSSR part looks okay, though it seems like performance-wise it's not doing as well as DLSS (upscaling cost), probably a result of the still hybrid cores & more limited amount of them in the console chip (which makes sense for cost reasons). Don't think it would be an issue for an FSR 4 that's ML-based since dGPUs will simply have more cores.

Videocardz snippet:

Lisa Su also confirmed that RDNA4 will focus on enhancing ray tracing performance and adding new "Al capabilities," likely meaning faster matrix operations and new floating point compute options. We also got a glimpse of RDNA4 ray tracing with the showcase of PlayStation 5 Pro.

Lets hope its not a disappointment.
 
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