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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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cainer said:
hi guys, sorry ive not read the thread or watched computex, but after a very very very very very very very long wait finally AMD gave us Vega!
but i cant seem to find them to buy on the OcUK website, help please?
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plz ban!

:p

mahius said:
The TLDR is, that Nintendo offers a different experience to what you can get on PC/PS4/XB1. I've seen a lot of people pair their Gaming PC with something like a WiiU (or more recently the Switch).
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Yep. Great combo with PC. That is what I do. Then with PS4 and Xbone I can just borrow family or friends console to play any exclusives if I feel the need. Perfect balance for me.
 
z10m said:
Although WiiU can be perfectly emulated on a PC.
I'm currently playing Zelda Breath of The Wild at 4K with zero fps drops unlike on WiiU itself.
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I tried that before selling my 1080 a few weeks ago, it was anything but smooth. Nothing like playing it on the actual Switch itself. Even Mario Kart was far from perfect.
 
console would be ok if online was free, its more expensive then a pc setup level of say amd 480
I'd only go console if they came out with a Gran Turismo and it was unique and amazing, console needs that one game you will play for ages then its convenient, etc and ideal
Rezident said:
Wait, they are releasing the Vega Frontier in June? The way everyone was going on I thought there were no cards for ages. So if you need a high-end card now, that should do. Is it likely to be cheaper than a Titan?
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We all presume the Frontier will not be usable for gaming. If nothing else the drivers wont work properly? It'd be cheaper, less hassle and better performance to buy a 1070 and sell it after getting the proper Vega a month later. If OCUK stocks the Frontier I'll change my mind but it'd be surprising to see it happen.
But yea people are moaning and/or buying 1080ti because rx vega came 30 days later then expected plus nobody has more then a clue of its performance. I'm just hoping it'll be interesting, amd's new beginning/ more of a platform to develop plus an ok price
 
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TNA said:
I tried that before selling my 1080 a few weeks ago, it was anything but smooth. Nothing like playing it on the actual Switch itself. Even Mario Kart was far from perfect.
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Since then Cemu emulator progressed a lot as new version is released every week.
It works 100% smooth on my [email protected] but on my htpc that has 4790(non K) running at 4Ghz when using Cemu it is unplayable.
 
z10m said:
Since then Cemu emulator progressed a lot as new version is released every week.
It works 100% smooth on my [email protected] but on my htpc that has 4790(non K) running at 4Ghz when using Cemu it is unplayable.
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I doubt there is much if any difference between a my 4770K @4.7GHz and a 6700K @4.6GHz, but maybe you tried it on a one newer version then me.

I completed it on the Nintendo Switch anyway, great game. Will wait a year or so and play again 4K, by then it will only get better I suppose :D
 
TNA said:
I doubt there is much if any difference between a my 4770K @4.7GHz and a 6700K @4.6GHz, but maybe you tried it on a one newer version then me.

I completed it on the Nintendo Switch anyway, great game. Will wait a year or so and play again 4K, by then it will only get better I suppose :D
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Botw does seem to run ok now on the newest version of cemu i just started playing in last night. At least i have something to play now till vega
 
TNA said:
I personally have no problem with it, but may I suggest we keep the thread on topic before another user comes in calls someone else and idiot and gets the thread locked again? :p:D
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I took the hint that you and the vocal consensus seem to want and expect a different level of discussion from this forum than myself and that rules here seem to be pretty lax around that. But how about you stick to what you said and let it go and do me the favour of leaving me out of it. Thanks.
 
mahius said:
I disagree (with that first sentence) and I say that as a PS4+PS3 owner. The PS4 is good, but the games are mostly too similar to PC offerings. Of the handful PS4 games I have, one I've never touched since I played the PC version to death (game came bundled), another had a bad PC port, another has similar games from the same devs on PC and a couple have very similar games on PC too. Though there is one more that is actually a unique exclusive with nothing like it on PC, but that's exception.

Thusly... I would say that the one system that fits best with a gaming PC is a Nintendo console (as much as I hate that company). If you want graphics and performance, the PC handles that. Nintendo games don't care about such things and are very unique, not much like them. Many Nintendo games support local multiplayer, which is something that can't be said of the PS4 (only one of my PS4 games has local multiplayer) as very few games seem to have that feature. Granted, you can emulate many of them but the newest console hardwares are still worth owning as they either can't be emulated yet or can't be emulated well.

The TLDR is, that Nintendo offers a different experience to what you can get on PC/PS4/XB1. I've seen a lot of people pair their Gaming PC with something like a WiiU (or more recently the Switch). All that said, PS4 is not a bad console, I enjoy playing on mine and look forward to playing Wipeout releasing on it next week. But it's just not the singular console I would pair with PC (but if you're talking 2 consoles...).

I would apologise for all the off-topic discussion, but there's nothing to talk about with Vega or even any positive speculation. So it's probably a better discussion than what Vega has given us so far in this thread lol.

Also props to the person in the old thread who predicted Vega would launch on the 30th June/end of June. They were right! Obviously not the Vega we were hoping for, but it's still a Vega chip in that non-consumer GPU.
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I thought of the Nintendo console as I wrote it but it's not really relevant to me as a midlife gamer, As for similar games that'll always be happening, The reason I see the Playstation as being the better of the two as an additional platform to own alongside the PC is because Microsoft have opened the door to a lot of Xbox exclusives through the windows store, We now have access to the latest Gears of War and Forza games alongside titles like Quantum break. We're getting State of Decay 2 as well where as there some solid franchises not available on the Playstation platform. As I mentioned I'm trying titles like the original The Last of us along with Red Dead Redemption and Unchartered 3 on my PC via PS Now to see if I like them enough to get a Pro ready for the next instalments. So while you can argue that there's similar titles if you like single player campaigns that's where they're not similar.
 
old gamer said:
Not as funny as it sounds, how can they get any market share with nothing to go up against the 1070/80/ti and titan
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Too true. I'm a 'reasonable' AMD fanboy and I'd have happily chucked AMD £400+ for a new graphics card. Trouble is they have nothing and my Ryzen 1800x build really needed a high end card. I could've "Waited for Vega" until September, but in the end I decided we we're just being strung along at this stage and I'd had enough.

I installed my new 1080 this afternoon and I'm now basking in the 1440p 60fps glow.
 
Confuzz said:
And your wrong if you think you will save money the current lifespan of a console is very short.
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And yet the lifespan of a "current" console is still probably twice that of a "current" graphics card. And with substantially less depreciation.

..Cue those who will now tell us they "buy and sell at the right time" and upgrading their cards cost only 10p per generation. :)

(Happy 970 owner, btw. And the upgrade from my 570 cost more than 10p. :))
 
For the people who say graphics suck on ps 4 pro, check out digital foundry's comparisons, the difference really isn't that big any more, main difference is usually textures being a bit sharper on PC and shadows and draw distance (more so for open world games), not to mention the differences are having to be highlighted to you in side by side comparisons where the image is zoomed in so any difference will be even less noticeable in gameplay and even more so when you're sitting a good few feet away from a display.

PC used to be amazing for graphics, it really was leaps ahead but not now, most of the time "ultra" settings barely look any better but only harm FPS:


If graphics were still being pushed then £1000+ on a PC would be a lot more justifiable imo.

The main reason to stick with PC now is solely for when you want a constant 60+ FPS and/or free/g sync and/or 21.9.

As for closed ecosystem, in many ways I wish PC was too..... PC ports are a ******* joke over the last couple of years, buggy, poorly optimised or/and missing graphical effects, just to name a few:

- most of ubis games, unity, watch dogs spring to mind
- prey (broken save system for PC, missing graphical effects, think this may be fixed now)
- batman arkham knight, much else need to be said?
- deus ex mankind divided (missing graphical effects, poorly optimised and buggy)
- mafia 3, terrible although iirc, consoles had it bad too but nowhere as bad as PC
- rise of the tomb raider (worst game that I've ever had installed on my PC and I've at least 20 threads where people also had big issues running it on various systems)
- nier automatica (fixed recently though)
- witcher 3 (to an extent, just started playing this again and it is a damn sight better than when I played it near launch, superb performance, loads more options and I'm pretty sure the graphics have improved too)

Could list even more but that will do for now. Some of the times though, this is where PC is nice as you can fix a few issues yourself as well as mod games with better texture packs, sweetfx etc.

With regards to no upgradeability:

Not really a big deal is it though as how often do new consoles come out? And they aren't that dear in the grand scheme of things. With PC, you need to be upgrading every 2 years or so (at least the GPU anyway, with CPU, MB, RAM, you can keep that stuff for a good 4/5+ years), more so if you are someone with a 3440x1440/4k display and want to maintain at least 60 fps 90% of the time in new/future titles.

Vry rare exclusives:

Depends on the person but there are at least 2 handfuls of excellent titles only on the ps 4 (that far exceed 90% of other games) and I'm sure the list will get even longer with e3 upcoming, plenty of articles/youtube videos showing all the exclusives

IMO, the only real downsides with a PS 4 pro are 30 fps for some games and 16.9.

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Overall Graphics Board Shipments Down 29.8%
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Not surprised at all and also desktop PCs on a massive decline?

Can't say I'm surprised, called it years ago and I predict that things will only get worse, prices across the PC sector will only get higher with less and less people upgrading/buying said items.
 
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