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This isn't actually true, Nvidia have developed G-sync to be a one brand tech, AMD's response was to push for changes to be made to what at the time was an incoming update to the Displayport standard, That update now includes adaptive-sync, In that respect the timing couldn't of been better for AMD. If Nvidia hadn't announced G-sync when they did it would have been too late for the current version of the displayport to get tweaked as it did. Freesync works through the industry standard displayport which is available for anyone to use, AMD use it for Freesync, Intel use it but Nvidia don't because there version G-sync locks anyone who buy's a G-sync monitor into the Geforce eco-system. Because of the hefty premium gamer's pay for G-sync monitor's owners feel the need to continue buying GTX graphic's card's so that they won't have wasted their money.
Freesync is not entirely free but it is only a small mark up compared to what is often hundred's of pounds for the G-sync equivalent.
For me what makes G-sync a hard sell is that a monitor fully decked out with the right Freesync features is every bit as good as a G-sync monitor.
I was just thinking about adding this to my post, I remember reading some articles about this a couple of years ago and at the time yes, Mobile G-sync used the industry standard adaptive-sync instead of the module desktop G-sync monitor's use.
That alone speaks volumes about Nvidia's claim that G-sync's the superior tech.
What needs to happen is monitor spec parity between the two. Why isn't there a ***** to the wall ROG Freesync MG348Q that's identical to the PG348Q bar Sync tech.
That does put off a few people for some high end monitors; especially since LFC is so darn important on Freesync; but many of those Freesync panels are capped at 75hz.
It won't be HDR tech as that's just come to TVs and Monitors. And it has to be 10bit HDR non of this half ass fake crap.
Freesync and Gsync are useful fullstop. Ive tried it without and gamed without for years then i finally tried it and it was amazing. It's like going from 60Hz to 144 and maintaining over 100FPS. You notice the difference in smoothness for sure. And FPS variation you dont feel as much if at all because i dont notice drops like i used to.
4k Does improve image quality. Heck even 1440p does. Ive got a 1080p second monitor at the side here and at the desktop is absolutely is not as good and as sharp as my 1440p at the desktop. Same in games. Max settings is false that just slows down GPUs.
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1080 performance at 1080 prices will be what I expect and that will do nicely for those with Freesync screens.
That'll be fine from the WC model but if the blower version is 1080 prices with the WC approaching Ti pricing I won't be buying. Nvidia's next range can't be that far away, There's no reason why we should have to pay so high a price, What it's cost them is down to them not us, I would have preferred a GDDR5x model 6 months ago rather than a HBM2 model that's memory is slower than last gen's HBM
As was the Asus IPS Dominator I got from OCUK, It was the first IPS monitor I'd ever bought and the BLB was horrendous, All 4 corner with 2 in particular that almost covered there entire quarter in bleed, It was so horrible I almost said sod it and bought another TN, Luckily enough Old gamer had a great UW Freesync monitor that he put on the Member's Market so I grabbed that and I'm glad I did even if I don't go with Vega this time.
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According to WCCF, the top XTX is coming in both liquid and air cooling.
http://wccftech.com/wip-vega-10-vega-11-vega-12-vega-20-leaked/
http://wccftech.com/wip-vega-10-vega-11-vega-12-vega-20-leaked/
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You're right they do need to to get parity between the sync types, I'm not sure why Nvidia G-sync models have the faster panel's, Maybe the G-sync module's are pushing a bigger overclock by default, My Freesync's capped at 75hz but the working range is 30-75 with LFC and for playing games it feels great. I'm hoping my next upgrade will be to a UW4k model with 100hz+ and an adaptive sync tech but there still several years away so for now I have the best IPS UW can offer, I briefly had a 144hz Freesync ultrawide monitor that used a VA panel but the 2560x1080 resolution let it down, I imagine we can't be far off seeing uw1440 versions of that and if that becomes available with Freesync2 spec's it'd make a great choice.
That is the most notable difference with a lot of comparable monitor's, Another example is the 35" Acer VA Ultrawide I mentioned earlier. The Freesync model's at 144hz while the G-sync one's at 200hz.
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If it's available with aftermarket air coolers like the Fury pro's that'll be great but I think it's reference blowers only and cut down chips in aftermarket form. That may not be right though, I hope it isn't.
Yeah, I've never been happy with VA panels after having a proper IPS one that's been calibrated. Never mind the lower resolutions.
All the monitors now still use DP 1.2. I'm hoping 1.3 or 1.4 ones show up soon, as that'll give up the bandwidth for 144Hz at 3440x1440 without issue; or colour depth compromises.
I'm surprised we've heard nothing about Freesync 2 since it's announcement; and no monitors featuring it.
Been hearing about hardware z-sorting/culling and occlusion detection for over a decade now. No one ever uses it. Everyone just uses dpvs to cull entire models on the CPU. Don't know if it is just too hard to use, or if it is just too much of a performance hit.
So...don't expect much performance to come from this rehashed feature.
So...don't expect much performance to come from this rehashed feature.
It's not exactly 1080 prices as I have to buy a new PSU to run the thingI am sure it will be golden bro. 1080 performance at 1080 prices will be what I expect and that will do nicely for those with Freesync screens. Hopefully they have done some sandbagging with the FE and the RX will be Ti performance
Actually I was not aware of that and I'm quite glad to find out (as a dev I can appreciate how much this simplifies things), so thanks for the link!
From reading your reference, it seems like they are at the stage AMD used to be before Vega. They have a 49-bit address space and a page fault can fetch data from DRAM, but they don't seem to have an interface to generic PCIe devices (e.g. to do the SSD trick). I'm sure whatever comes after Volta will have the ability to directly interact with any device. I was thinking they could even slot a Thunderbolt interface onto the card making it possible to attach an external SSD so you can modify the amount of available cache by swapping out drivers. But I'm getting quite off-topic now.
The thing is, once again AMD pulled a rabbit out of its hat in a pro feature in Vega which nobody expected. It's a real pity that due to ****** software AMD's cards seem lagging when in fact they're one step ahead. I mean, forget about the gaming drivers and being bad in DX11 and just look at pure compute: Nvidia's CUDA software essentially locked that market in when in fact AMD cards have had the TFLOPs and the superior simplified programming model the whole time. It's just that they had buggy/no compiler support, libraries/tools (OpenCL, Caffe, etc).
I really hope they invest whatever money is coming towards them from Ryzen and crypto-sales-boom in R&D across both hardware and software.
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Noice!!! 144Hz 4K but a bit pricey
Well freesync is GPU section and they seem slow on actually telling us much lately . It is a shame however but a lot of AMD GPU tech does seem to follow that same pattern of announcing said tech then it goes quiet
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Depends on the person i guess, I'm not really having any issues with 1440p @ 24" with 125% scaling, quite nice and sharp.
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