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Average Messi sitting in his averagely-decorated cinema room in his most likely average-sized house.
Soldato
http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/city-hit-hard-by-absences-mancini
anyone else fail to summon up any sympathy?
Citeh haven't got enough players?! trolololololololololololololololllllllllll
anyone else fail to summon up any sympathy?
Citeh haven't got enough players?! trolololololololololololololololllllllllll
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IT's his own fault really, despite the protestations that Barry and Milner are incredible, without Silva/Toure running the midfield and doing the bulk of the work that needs doing Barry looked woeful, again, and Milner just failed to produce.
Milner, much like Johnson, when left to it too often take the selfish long shot rather than set other people up. Johnson looked poor, Milner looked okay but no where near good enough on his own to carry the team.
De Jong looks like a guy who hasn't had a first team game since the end of last season....... oh wait, had Mancini rested Toure more and given De Jong more games, both Toure wouldn't have looked so knackered in the past month AND he'd have had more rest before the ACN, and probably look less tired when he gets back also. THen you get the advantage of De Jong not being totally out of form when you need to rely on him.
Basically almost all his problems are entirely his fault, caused a huge blow up with Tevez, one less striker to use, refused to use De Jong until he had no choice, player has no form and doesn't look match fit, ***** 25mil on Nasri, find out he's the same player he was before the move....... completely unreliable, lazy, not very creative, disappears in big games and commits a lot of petulant fouls.
IF he'd rotated properly the team would likely not have had such an average past 6 weeks, be better off in the table before the current injury issues, likely have less injury issues..... he's got a huge squad, he's pretty much refused to use it.
Milner, much like Johnson, when left to it too often take the selfish long shot rather than set other people up. Johnson looked poor, Milner looked okay but no where near good enough on his own to carry the team.
De Jong looks like a guy who hasn't had a first team game since the end of last season....... oh wait, had Mancini rested Toure more and given De Jong more games, both Toure wouldn't have looked so knackered in the past month AND he'd have had more rest before the ACN, and probably look less tired when he gets back also. THen you get the advantage of De Jong not being totally out of form when you need to rely on him.
Basically almost all his problems are entirely his fault, caused a huge blow up with Tevez, one less striker to use, refused to use De Jong until he had no choice, player has no form and doesn't look match fit, ***** 25mil on Nasri, find out he's the same player he was before the move....... completely unreliable, lazy, not very creative, disappears in big games and commits a lot of petulant fouls.
IF he'd rotated properly the team would likely not have had such an average past 6 weeks, be better off in the table before the current injury issues, likely have less injury issues..... he's got a huge squad, he's pretty much refused to use it.
I count that we have 21 players+ youngsters.
Out of that 21, we are missing Kolo, Yaya and Kompany so 18 for these next few weeks. Then Balotelli gets injured and so is Silva we are down to 16.
There should be no excuses really with the money we have spent though.
We should have probably strengthened further in the summer but we didn't. It also doesn't look like will this Jan unless Tevez goes then someone like DDR can sign and probably another CB.
The idea behind playing Yaya in every game possible is that we use him whilst we have him and it has worked because we are top of the league.
NDJ has looked a shadow of the player he was in this this team at the moment and with a long injury and the team not needing a CDM you can see why Mancini hasn't played him.
Out of that 21, we are missing Kolo, Yaya and Kompany so 18 for these next few weeks. Then Balotelli gets injured and so is Silva we are down to 16.
There should be no excuses really with the money we have spent though.
We should have probably strengthened further in the summer but we didn't. It also doesn't look like will this Jan unless Tevez goes then someone like DDR can sign and probably another CB.
The idea behind playing Yaya in every game possible is that we use him whilst we have him and it has worked because we are top of the league.
NDJ has looked a shadow of the player he was in this this team at the moment and with a long injury and the team not needing a CDM you can see why Mancini hasn't played him.
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In both cases I think you're wrong, De Jong has looked a shadow of his former self, because he's basically not played since the end of last season. Take Messi, don't play him for 6 months and ask him to be his best in his first game back, not going to happen. If you rotated him more he'd have more form, be fitter, sharper and less of a problem when you're forced to rely on him.
This is ultimately the situation, every team ALWAYS gets injuries, when you refuse to rest players, get an injury and fall back on an unfit player, you've made a mistake, even more so as Mancini KNEW Toure would be gone yet didn't help De Jong get games before there was no other choice.
15 minutes here, 30 minutes there, he should have been getting game time for a minimum of 4-5 games before Toure was gone, realistically longer than that.
Also the argument that you played Toure, are top of the league so it worked, is baseless, you haven't proven anything there. Its two unconnected statements. Don't forget that City's form has been significantly worse in the past month and their gap has gone down to literally nothing right now. I'd argue that both not resting Silva and Toure is the very reason the gap is shrinking, not the reason you're top. Toure has looked shattered for over a month, and Silva has been out of form for the same amount of time and you've dropped what, 10 points or so in that time frame while giving up a 6-8 point lead.
Likewise there were plenty of games you could have won without Toure this year, and ones you didn't win despite him playing recently where the team looked tired and out of idea's.
These things are all connected.
If De jong had started 5 more games spread over the season so far, and subbed in for Toure even time you were 3-0 giving him 30-40minute's less in another 5 games, then De Jong would have played more, Toure less, he'd have been better over the past month and De Jong would be better now.
Wait for a RVP injury, wait for our form to tank as we rely on Chamakh who has barely played and pretty much not started 2 games in a row for over a year now.
You rotate to avoid these problems, and its up to a manager to pick the right times to do that. Mancini hasn't done that at all so far, and that's come back to bite him in the ass now.
I saw a hilariously obtuse write up of City's not great performance and last loss where someone banged on about both how they said Yaya, Silva and Kompany were three key players City couldn't replace.......... and how City haven't looked really good since the Norwich thrashing coming up on 6 weeks ago.
They didn't spot the irony, yes City haven't looked good for 6 weeks, and its only the last game they didn't have Yaya, Kompany and Silva..... but they looked poor before then for 5 weeks the problem wasn't missing them, the problem was with two of them looking no where near their best, while not at their best and looking tired what did Mancini do, rest them, bring Yaya off early, nope, just play 90 mins every game and he looked more tired and worse every game.
This is ultimately the situation, every team ALWAYS gets injuries, when you refuse to rest players, get an injury and fall back on an unfit player, you've made a mistake, even more so as Mancini KNEW Toure would be gone yet didn't help De Jong get games before there was no other choice.
15 minutes here, 30 minutes there, he should have been getting game time for a minimum of 4-5 games before Toure was gone, realistically longer than that.
Also the argument that you played Toure, are top of the league so it worked, is baseless, you haven't proven anything there. Its two unconnected statements. Don't forget that City's form has been significantly worse in the past month and their gap has gone down to literally nothing right now. I'd argue that both not resting Silva and Toure is the very reason the gap is shrinking, not the reason you're top. Toure has looked shattered for over a month, and Silva has been out of form for the same amount of time and you've dropped what, 10 points or so in that time frame while giving up a 6-8 point lead.
Likewise there were plenty of games you could have won without Toure this year, and ones you didn't win despite him playing recently where the team looked tired and out of idea's.
These things are all connected.
If De jong had started 5 more games spread over the season so far, and subbed in for Toure even time you were 3-0 giving him 30-40minute's less in another 5 games, then De Jong would have played more, Toure less, he'd have been better over the past month and De Jong would be better now.
Wait for a RVP injury, wait for our form to tank as we rely on Chamakh who has barely played and pretty much not started 2 games in a row for over a year now.
You rotate to avoid these problems, and its up to a manager to pick the right times to do that. Mancini hasn't done that at all so far, and that's come back to bite him in the ass now.
I saw a hilariously obtuse write up of City's not great performance and last loss where someone banged on about both how they said Yaya, Silva and Kompany were three key players City couldn't replace.......... and how City haven't looked really good since the Norwich thrashing coming up on 6 weeks ago.
They didn't spot the irony, yes City haven't looked good for 6 weeks, and its only the last game they didn't have Yaya, Kompany and Silva..... but they looked poor before then for 5 weeks the problem wasn't missing them, the problem was with two of them looking no where near their best, while not at their best and looking tired what did Mancini do, rest them, bring Yaya off early, nope, just play 90 mins every game and he looked more tired and worse every game.
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Got to start recouping the transfer payment somehow.
Got to start recouping the transfer payment somehow.
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Give him a chance to kick a ball.
Makes no sense coming from a Manchester City fan
A little update on our never ending new stadium situation:
Over the last couple of months it's started to become clear that any hope of redeveloping Anfield is slim at best, due to difficulties in purchasing property around the ground. With it now looking almost certain that we'll move to a new ground in Stanley Park, the next question is which of the countless stadium designs (or even a new design) will be used.
It's being reported tonight that due to the time and difficulty in obtaining new planning permission, the club have decided to press ahead with the bowl stadium design we got planning permission for nearly 9 years ago. See below:
http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33
The design above had been tweaked a few years ago to include a single tier Kop but the tweaked design (below) never got planning permission and I'd be very surprised if it fitted under the original planning consent.
http://aflarch.demonweb.co.uk/projects.php?action=showProject&catID=43&projectID=227
The other design which we defintely do have planning permission for is the HKS design below. While I much prefer this design to the 2 above, it's not surprise it's not being considered given who was behind it and the reported costs involved too.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...adium-latest-is-this-anfield-100252-20394599/
Over the last couple of months it's started to become clear that any hope of redeveloping Anfield is slim at best, due to difficulties in purchasing property around the ground. With it now looking almost certain that we'll move to a new ground in Stanley Park, the next question is which of the countless stadium designs (or even a new design) will be used.
It's being reported tonight that due to the time and difficulty in obtaining new planning permission, the club have decided to press ahead with the bowl stadium design we got planning permission for nearly 9 years ago. See below:
http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33
The design above had been tweaked a few years ago to include a single tier Kop but the tweaked design (below) never got planning permission and I'd be very surprised if it fitted under the original planning consent.
http://aflarch.demonweb.co.uk/projects.php?action=showProject&catID=43&projectID=227
The other design which we defintely do have planning permission for is the HKS design below. While I much prefer this design to the 2 above, it's not surprise it's not being considered given who was behind it and the reported costs involved too.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...adium-latest-is-this-anfield-100252-20394599/
No roof? Are you wanting a fully closed roof (in which case why?) or do you think the stands have no roof?
I should have pointed out, it's being reported that the club will be modifying the 2003 plans however they'll be working within the same planning consent, so any major changers are unlikely. The 2008 AFL design with the single tier Kop isn't too bad but I suspect that's structurally too different to fit within the original planning consent.
I should have pointed out, it's being reported that the club will be modifying the 2003 plans however they'll be working within the same planning consent, so any major changers are unlikely. The 2008 AFL design with the single tier Kop isn't too bad but I suspect that's structurally too different to fit within the original planning consent.
Soldato
The AFL (Second Design linked) is the best for me, really love the interior plan.
I agree. Still no official statement regarding our position on it though.
The exterior looks like your typical bowl stadium but the interior at least tries to have 4 stands rather than a continued ring.
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