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I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that the interview where Tom Werner said this is 4 months old and the press have only just picked up on it or the fact that in the interview Tom Werner was clearly joking around with Ian Ayre 
Not that Werner would have had any say in the football side of things anyway.
Not that Werner would have had any say in the football side of things anyway.
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Mail are saying that Wenger confirmed Wilshire got injured in training.
Apparently just training to hopefully be back for early Feb he was running and just started getting pain in his ankle again. So same injury, and if he hasn't had any pain recently in his ankle and all of a sudden its back.....
IF its a new stress fracture, bah, apparently seeing a specialist today so might know how serious it is in the next few days.
Apparently just training to hopefully be back for early Feb he was running and just started getting pain in his ankle again. So same injury, and if he hasn't had any pain recently in his ankle and all of a sudden its back.....
IF its a new stress fracture, bah, apparently seeing a specialist today so might know how serious it is in the next few days.
2011 transfer spend graphic.
Look at Everton!
(and it definitely disproves anyone saying that Wenger doesn't spend money)
Look at Everton!
(and it definitely disproves anyone saying that Wenger doesn't spend money)
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2011 transfer spend graphic.
Look at Everton!
(and it definitely disproves anyone saying that Wenger doesn't spend money)
lol, took me a while to spot them
People in general keep harping on about this net spend rubbish like its somehow significant. In those terms Arsenal spent very little, how does that graphic look when compared to money generated from sales.
Still ignore that, Arsenal spent circa 50mil more than Spurs last season on wages... and will do this season as well
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It's not looking particularly good, "I can't write, i'm stupid, I forgot about the account, I was sure the other guy paid the taxes, the dog did it, I almost ruined us financially several times over".
Thing is I think he's innocent in as much as, all they've found with I assume a LOT of looking is 190k-ish, for which tax would be under 100k, and he'll be paying well over 1mil in tax a year as is..... why bother cheating over 100k, though there is more of an argument there in a year where money was tight and he was almost bankrupt I guess.
He probably did forget about it and probably didn't intentionally cheat on taxes. But ultimately he didn't pay tax on money he earned, does intent really come into it, I don't know what the laws are, is stupidity/ignorance actually a defence(clearly doesn't work for Arsenal
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According to the paper today there was no legal way to watch the City - Liverpool game in midweek in Abu Dhabi, such is their interest in their beloved Blues. Things like that make the Etihad sponsorship deal look dodgier than a Harry Redknapp tax return (not that any help was needed there).
LOL of course it is...my mouth dropped open when i was listening to SSN yesterday...its unbelievable, that if true his defence, how the hell did he manage to get through life??. I wonder who has picked his team sheet for the game against Watford
LOLworthy defence though, i wouldnt be surprised if the court accepted it and let him off with a measly fine..which is probably the most likely outcome sadly.
Maybe a tiny little slap on the wrist as well...seriously though nothing will happen with UEFA...they are gutless muppets.
History is overrated when you are a player with a 15-year career of which at most 10 years will be your prime, basically if I was a player playing in England, I'd choose Man City over Arsenal for chance of success as well as the wage packet, the only downside really is whether there is a risk of not playing as much as you want, and perhaps London being preferrable to Manchester for foreigners.
Realistically, the likes of Nottingham Forest and Leeds United probably have a better history than Man City, that doesn't make them better locations for footballers who only have a limited number of years to achive their ambitions in the game.
Nasri, whatever people may say about him going to MC for the money, struck me as a real enthusiast for football, big smiles when things go his way, also his last game for Arsenal was the Liverpool game (I think) where he played very well IMO, he told Wenger he wanted to play despite the risk of a backlash from the fans, no doing a Chris Samba and pulling a sicky, no bottling it on the pitch a fully committed performance. So the one downside to MC from his point of view could be the risk of getting cast aside if he isn't flavour of the month, in the way that can happen at clubs who spend big every year.
In summation going to Man City to get paid £175k/week is a lot different from joining I dunno, Notts County for £175k/week, the former were a Champions League side who'd won a trophy the previous year, with a good chance of competing for the title, compared to Arsenal who hadn't won anything in 6 years and were likely to face an uphill battle just to finish in the top 4.
Realistically, the likes of Nottingham Forest and Leeds United probably have a better history than Man City, that doesn't make them better locations for footballers who only have a limited number of years to achive their ambitions in the game.
Nasri, whatever people may say about him going to MC for the money, struck me as a real enthusiast for football, big smiles when things go his way, also his last game for Arsenal was the Liverpool game (I think) where he played very well IMO, he told Wenger he wanted to play despite the risk of a backlash from the fans, no doing a Chris Samba and pulling a sicky, no bottling it on the pitch a fully committed performance. So the one downside to MC from his point of view could be the risk of getting cast aside if he isn't flavour of the month, in the way that can happen at clubs who spend big every year.
In summation going to Man City to get paid £175k/week is a lot different from joining I dunno, Notts County for £175k/week, the former were a Champions League side who'd won a trophy the previous year, with a good chance of competing for the title, compared to Arsenal who hadn't won anything in 6 years and were likely to face an uphill battle just to finish in the top 4.
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It's news, I think a lot of fee's do get mentioned in official records at later dates but, the news is the news, interested in nothing but a fee one day, a year later a bit of work and they'd know but they can't be arsed.
Still might be some secret fee's here and there but everyone puts up their yearly transfer figures in their accounts so maybe for Arsenal Mertesacker is 8mil and Dos Santos 6, maybe they are both 7, it will still be 14mil's worth of transfers in the financial records so overall you know a team spent 50mil one year, and 30mil another.
It doesn't take into account wages though, which eventually people will realise is almost always the biggest part of the deal. I mean Ronaldo cost £80mil, didn't Beckham get basically 25mil a year Ronaldo is on 250k a week and it rises every year supposed to be worth a flat out sick amount in the final year of the contract isn't it.
Transfer fee's are a terrible gauge of spending, not least because its way less than wages but because you can't get lucky and give RVP 10k a week for his career, you CAN get lucky and sign a player on a free or for a stupid low fee for many reasons. You can also sell someone like Adebayor when no rich teams are in for him and get maybe 10-15mil from AC, or get extremely lucky, wait a year and City come in and ***** a load of cash on him.
Net spend means crap all, always has, always will, though I'm not even sure the numbers are accurate.
It says for 2003/2004 we spent almost 40mil, when I can only find Cesc, Reyes, Senderos, Djourou, Lehman and Clichy listed. Of those Reyes was 10-13mil, Cesc/Djourou free, Clichy not much, and 2-2.5mil each for the other two, barely 20mil spend.
Of course I find it funny the season listed as expensive(it might include fee's for releasing players and paying out contract, which was a fair few) is the last time we won a title, coincidence much?
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