Haha must have been a very sharp paper he used to stab the poor guy. Scum and totally deserves being banged up although i would have made it a lot longer.
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Haha must have been a very sharp paper he used to stab the poor guy. Scum and totally deserves being banged up although i would have made it a lot longer.
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Obviously has to start at grass roots football but when you employ monuments like Hodgson what chance have you got? The recipe that was successful yesterday just isn't successful today.
Yep would have helped if he said he'd like to see 'x' number of English players in PL squads, or match day squad has to have 'x' number of English U21s.
Just saying the aim is to win a World Cup in 2022 doesn't help at all, surely that's the goal of any tournament you enter.
Just saying the aim is to win a World Cup in 2022 doesn't help at all, surely that's the goal of any tournament you enter.
that and the euro's make no sense, ok we have a chance we might get lucky to get into a euro's semi final, but the world cup is a none starter unless half a dozen of the top countries boycott it.
sure i've read somewhere that the blueprint that has been used by Germany was based on an english idea that the FA didn't like, if thats even remotely true, until the FA is sorted out we stand no chance.
Most other leagues have managed because there wasn't the amount of money there is the PL. Also, most other leagues don't have their top clubs producing their national talent. With the exception of Barcelona, most countries use their smaller clubs as the proving grounds for the national side and then the top players are sucked up by the big clubs in Europe or their own country.
When most of the players in the league are foreign and even going down a few leagues you have a problem with the national side. Our issue starts from a very early age though and the way we promote aggressive football and a physical game from a young age.
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That sounds just about right need to reduce the foreign players in match day squads, England is going abroad to bring in the flair players and technical players, they need to change that first to make sure they can produce these types of players to give them a chance.
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See, I think we should just abandon international football because it's a load of crap and just gets in the way of the proper football (stupid, pointless friendlies at the beginning of season for example)
I don't think International football is crap, nor do I think the players think it's crap. It's the media constantly pushing an agenda that the Premier League it the very pinnacle of football, which it is not.
The latter stages of a World Cup or European Cup is often brilliant football.
The latter stages of a World Cup or European Cup is often brilliant football.
Employ Southgate as U21 coach. Complain about state of football. Result.
Is Dyke basically using a public forum to highlight his (and the wider FA) failure to complete the basics of his job? Why has he come out and complained that he can't do his job? Is that not completely weird to anybody else? Who is he blaming? It's the FA's job! Moron.
Is Dyke basically using a public forum to highlight his (and the wider FA) failure to complete the basics of his job? Why has he come out and complained that he can't do his job? Is that not completely weird to anybody else? Who is he blaming? It's the FA's job! Moron.
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Seeing a particular number of english players in a team would be hugely counter productive, the best players need to play with and against the best players possible to be the best players. Would Andy murray have ever been as good as he is today if he was only allowed to play against Nadal/Federer and 99% of the other best players once every 2 years and the best english players inbetween? Not a chance.
Also with the exception of England there is nothing to do with lower clubs producing their talent, there is simply a lot more talent than Barcelona can fit on the books being produced in England.
Quality in Spain is being produced regardless of the club, the coaches are better, the attitude is better. As such there are top players that pop up constantly from the majority of their clubs and that is the same across Europe. Ozil didn't come near Bayern, and Bayern didn't buy him and it wasn't because Bayern were only buying top players from across Europe and other german teams, they just didn't have space for him because they were growing their own crop of top young players.
If the way players are trained and the attitude of those players, their parents and their coaches improves, the numbers of english players in premier league teams would increase as a consequence of them being better players. If you try it the other way around you'll significantly decrease the quality of players.
Every other FA in europe went around to the countries producing the best talent, took on board what they were doing and moved forward, England went, saw, and rejected it.... English people and the English FA want a quick fix, not a complete change in mentality, style and methods that will only pay off in 10 years. Thing is, everyone else in europe made those changes over a decade ago and that is why 5-10 years later Belgium, Germany and most countries that made those changes are all now producing the best talent in Europe.
You can't short cut talent by artificially giving more chances to less good players, you need to be training the players better from when they first start playing, not a decade after they've learned poorly.
Also with the exception of England there is nothing to do with lower clubs producing their talent, there is simply a lot more talent than Barcelona can fit on the books being produced in England.
Quality in Spain is being produced regardless of the club, the coaches are better, the attitude is better. As such there are top players that pop up constantly from the majority of their clubs and that is the same across Europe. Ozil didn't come near Bayern, and Bayern didn't buy him and it wasn't because Bayern were only buying top players from across Europe and other german teams, they just didn't have space for him because they were growing their own crop of top young players.
If the way players are trained and the attitude of those players, their parents and their coaches improves, the numbers of english players in premier league teams would increase as a consequence of them being better players. If you try it the other way around you'll significantly decrease the quality of players.
Every other FA in europe went around to the countries producing the best talent, took on board what they were doing and moved forward, England went, saw, and rejected it.... English people and the English FA want a quick fix, not a complete change in mentality, style and methods that will only pay off in 10 years. Thing is, everyone else in europe made those changes over a decade ago and that is why 5-10 years later Belgium, Germany and most countries that made those changes are all now producing the best talent in Europe.
You can't short cut talent by artificially giving more chances to less good players, you need to be training the players better from when they first start playing, not a decade after they've learned poorly.
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It is much more often complete crap, the Spain/Holland final was hardly the pinnacle of the sport. Internationals rank highly because back in the day of little money and not much on tv, internationals were both televised, monitised and at a closer standard to league levels... it was really the main footballing event to get real tv coverage. Even though that hasn't been true for 20 years, the general feel around it stayed from long before that.
There are occassionally brilliant games, but more often the games are a bit meh, one thing that helps(except with Vuvuzela's, the devil's work) is the atmosphere/way the hosting country tends to get into a tournament, the buzz, the constant games.
I don't care about internationals at all, if its a good game, great, if england go out, couldn't care less, I support whoever is playing the best football at any given tournament. But the way to improve England is the same key to improving english players, the EPL in general and the numbers of english players playing in the EPL. Make better english players, forcing worse players into our top league is utterly counterproductive.
Does he really think England have a chance of winning the World Cup in 2022? How arrogant can he get?
Were foreigners to blame when England failed to quailify for USA 94 or in 74 & 78?? It's not the foreigners that are the problem, rather it's the coaching and attitudes to sport in general.
Were foreigners to blame when England failed to quailify for USA 94 or in 74 & 78?? It's not the foreigners that are the problem, rather it's the coaching and attitudes to sport in general.
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Nice view.
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