The Carlos Tevez saga - what a tool

I have zero sympathy for Tevez but, if it's possible, I have even less for Man City. They signed Tevez knowing he was a muppet so should not be shocked in the slightest that this has happened. I personally am delighted.
 
I have zero sympathy for Tevez but, if it's possible, I have even less for Man City. They signed Tevez knowing he was a muppet so should not be shocked in the slightest that this has happened. I personally am delighted.

I'm not sure thats fair on City. He didn't have that much of a bad reputation when he left United. Since he has been at City he has been a **** and has numerous times caused issues off the pitch. He will have given City assurances about his state of mind and happiness to sign the contract he was offered and you have to take Tevez on his word. They have kept up their end of the bargain and he hasn't.

I'm a United fan but I don't want City to have to deal with this crap. Tevez is a tool and I hope they ruin his career. He has treated them with nothing but contempt recently.
 
Sorry chap but there is so much wrong with this post, its clear you just don't like City and have very little idea of Tevez's turbulent time at the club. He's 4th choice because he made it so, its not the clubs fault.

I havent blamed the club for the Tevez saga, I dont like it how City (or anyone, it could be Anji in years to come in Russia) are able to keep players from playing and stated that similar could easily happen given how they can throw money around without caring.

I also didnt say Tevez did this because he was 4th choice, re-read my post, take off your blinkers and realise that my example is on a different tangent and one that could feasibly happen... Man City are and will continue to buy up foreigners, with that, they will get the mardy ones... already have ie Robinho, Balotelli, Tevez... all ready and able to blow at any point.

My point about Aguero is and ive only used him as he is flavour of the month... IF City went out and signed the players ive mentioned and he becomes 4th/5th choice, then we could easily see this situation again and again and again.. City are not going to be like Barcelona, bringing through talent to compliment superstars.. City will be after the quick fix (and rightly so if you have the cash) that means signing all and sundry, which eventually will cause problems.

Id like to see Tevez play, it dosent really matter for who and should the situation as above come about, then I dont want to see those players also sat around sucking their thumbs.

Tevez might be a banker but he deserves to play football as its such a short career to have.

Its easy to clap along with Sky Sports over this affair, but I actually enjoy forming an opinion and not sew myself to the butt cheek of Graeme Souness and his cronies.
 
I'm a United fan but I don't want City to have to deal with this crap. Tevez is a tool and I hope they ruin his career. He has treated them with nothing but contempt recently.

Thats ridiculous - this could happen to any player that City sign and probably will again as the money side of things is crazy.

What happens when City (or again any other club who has such cash, lets say PSG, Anji etc) have arguably the best 22 players in the world and say 8 of them get mardy as they want to start week in, week out... yes we could blame them for chasing the $$$$ but thats a human flaw, 99% of us would do it.

What if 8 of Englands first XI found themselves in a scenario that they played once a month... didnt like it, inevitably fall out with someone.. say something in the papers... try to force a move, and then nope.. we are club x, we have so much cash that we can ruin your career... sorry England 8 of your players wont play club football again for 2/3 years until their contracts are up.

Tevez dosent want to play for City, so they should sell him and let him play elsewhere and then we wont have to hear about him playing golf... because guess what? Sky Sports will have a new topic to talk about and 90% of the 'football fans' in this country wont remember Tevez until he nets past 'Ingerland' in the World 'we won it before we turn up' Cup.

Anyway that'll do me, cant be bothered reading the same old tripe that the clappers will post, patting each others back for repeating each others 'instilled views'.
 
I havent blamed the club for the Tevez saga, I dont like it how City (or anyone, it could be Anji in years to come in Russia) are able to keep players from playing and stated that similar could easily happen given how they can throw money around without caring.

I also didnt say Tevez did this because he was 4th choice, re-read my post, take off your blinkers and realise that my example is on a different tangent and one that could feasibly happen... Man City are and will continue to buy up foreigners, with that, they will get the mardy ones... already have ie Robinho, Balotelli, Tevez... all ready and able to blow at any point.

My point about Aguero is and ive only used him as he is flavour of the month... IF City went out and signed the players ive mentioned and he becomes 4th/5th choice, then we could easily see this situation again and again and again.. City are not going to be like Barcelona, bringing through talent to compliment superstars.. City will be after the quick fix (and rightly so if you have the cash) that means signing all and sundry, which eventually will cause problems.

Id like to see Tevez play, it dosent really matter for who and should the situation as above come about, then I dont want to see those players also sat around sucking their thumbs.

Tevez might be a banker but he deserves to play football as its such a short career to have.

Its easy to clap along with Sky Sports over this affair, but I actually enjoy forming an opinion and not sew myself to the butt cheek of Graeme Souness and his cronies.
Keep players from playing? so if your Mancini and after what he has just done you just play him every game regardless? get a grip. Look at the top managers like SAF, did he let players do what they want and play them? the answer is no and that is why imo utd are so successful because SAF.

We are not going to be bringing through youngsters? what are you talking about? have you not seen the plans for the "super academy" that is being built? have you not seen the talent we have been buying? Rekik-Suarez-Cole-Henshall-Assulin etc etc.

Without any money we had one of the best academies and now FFP is coming in meaning we cant buy superstars every day we need to use the academy.

He deserves to play football? then why is he acting like a spoilt child for? if he wanted to play he would be in training every day with his mouth shut hoping to tempt Inter/Real etc into putting in an offer. Instead he has gone AWOL and ruined his chances of ever playing top level football for good practically.

It is your opinion but it is one that is very wrong in clearly not just my eyes.
 
I havent blamed the club for the Tevez saga, I dont like it how City (or anyone, it could be Anji in years to come in Russia) are able to keep players from playing and stated that similar could easily happen given how they can throw money around without caring.

I also didnt say Tevez did this because he was 4th choice, re-read my post, take off your blinkers and realise that my example is on a different tangent and one that could feasibly happen... Man City are and will continue to buy up foreigners, with that, they will get the mardy ones... already have ie Robinho, Balotelli, Tevez... all ready and able to blow at any point.

My point about Aguero is and ive only used him as he is flavour of the month... IF City went out and signed the players ive mentioned and he becomes 4th/5th choice, then we could easily see this situation again and again and again.. City are not going to be like Barcelona, bringing through talent to compliment superstars.. City will be after the quick fix (and rightly so if you have the cash) that means signing all and sundry, which eventually will cause problems.

Id like to see Tevez play, it dosent really matter for who and should the situation as above come about, then I dont want to see those players also sat around sucking their thumbs.

Tevez might be a banker but he deserves to play football as its such a short career to have.

Its easy to clap along with Sky Sports over this affair, but I actually enjoy forming an opinion and not sew myself to the butt cheek of Graeme Souness and his cronies.

1) He signed the contract, the club pay his wages, and if he isn't fit to play the manager decides he isn't fit to play. At the beginning of the season Tevez came back to training overweight and not even close to match fitness. By the time he was ready to be properly used he refused to come on. Clubs fault? I think not.

2) Nice bit of xenophobia, but we have our very own mardy arse in Adam Johnson, who was English last time I checked. Bit of a naff point to be honest.

3) If he's good enough to be 1st choice he'll be 1st choice. If he's not he won't be. Nothing wrong with that. But we've built the squad now. With FFPR we can't buy a new squad, and won't buy a new squad, every transfer window. People still forget we've built a squad in double quick time, it was always going to be heavy going in the beginning.

4) Missed the announcement on making the best training facility in the world then? We're not aiming to do it like Barcelona, we're aiming to do it better. As I've said above, we're not looking to buy a new squad every transfer window, the aim is to build a sustainable project.

5) He could have been playing if he kept himself in shape and didn't act like a constant arse. The club did not just freeze him out from the start of the season for no reason. If you want to think that because it fits in better with your view of big bad mean City fine, but it's wrong.

6) Lol. Yeah, I always follow Sky's lead on the club I've supported all my life :rolleyes: Try harder.

As for the re-reading of your post and taking off my blinkers, lets break it down :)

Personally im fed up with Man City now, it was novel at first and for their fans fair play to them, they have had to deal with a lot of 'poop' over the years so I dont begrudge them success or anything.

However as a football fan, I want to see Tevez playing and playing somewhere that he can be happy. The problem is that Man City can ruin the peak years of his career by forcing him to sit out his contract and not worry.... that is my main problem with everything atm and I dont think Tevez will be the last player associated with that team who does this or something similar.

Ok so your first point, you want to see Tevez play. Well you're probably in quite the minority there as he's done almost everything in his power to STOP HIMSELF PLAYING. His playing is of his own doing, not the clubs. City aren't ruining the peak years of his career at all, he's doing that to himself.

As I said, its novel atm, players want to be part of the first Man City to win this, that, or the other for x amount of years... and in the main, the current subs/backups are English who generally just plug on with it, happy with 1 start in 3 or 4 and 30mins in the other games.

Are they? We've had a pretty well rotated squad so far at not even the busiest point of the season, and I'm pretty sure our backup hasn't been mainly Englishmen. Players are on the whole getting starts and minutes on the pitch. Players are playing well to show why they should keep a starting berth whenever they get the chance, and the table shows we're doing it well.

BUT when the backups become players like Yaya Toure or Dzeko or AN Other.. then the problems will begin. I know that is a different tangent to why Tevez has done what he has, but once you get mardy foreigners in thinking they are the billy bigs' and then because of the cash City buy another 3 or 4 stars in, those that fall down the pecking order wont be as smiley as they are at the beginning.

Well you're just creating fictional sticks to beat us with here. Yaya Toure won't be a backup if he plays like he is. If he suddenly starts only playing good enough to be a backup, then he'll be a backup. What's wrong with that? If he wants to move on the club will let him go, like we have done with everyone so far (And yes, we did put Tevez up for sale in the summer, not our fault no-one wanted to buy him).

And if it happens again, who is to say that Aguero wont be in Tevez situation in 2/3 years time... if City sign Neymar, Ganso....Messi.... Higuain...etc etc What if Aguero at his peak of 27 is all of a sudden 4th or 5th choice, because thats the power the cash at City will do/become. And then we have a player like Aguero who gets moody, goes home under stress... its all ifs and buts, however I can see this just being the precedent.

See above. If Aguero does a Tevez, hands in a transfer request, refuses to warm up/come on for a huge game, slates the City the club is based, refuses to turn up to training and generally acts like a grade A ****, he'll deserve exactly what Tevez is getting now too. If Aguero hits 27 and he isn't good enough to be 1st choice striker he won't be 1st choice striker, where is the problem? Position in a team isn't a right, you earn it.

The only precedent that will be set here (hopefully) is no longer can a player have all the power and **** around a club to his own benefit.
 
Careful lads, he supports a Championship team. I don't if you've heard about it, apparently it's some league they do below the Premiership, and it's where those **** teams keep coming from every season.

But yeah, it means he's edgy and cool and doesn't conform man. Styling.
 
Thats ridiculous - this could happen to any player that City sign and probably will again as the money side of things is crazy.

What happens when City (or again any other club who has such cash, lets say PSG, Anji etc) have arguably the best 22 players in the world and say 8 of them get mardy as they want to start week in, week out... yes we could blame them for chasing the $$$$ but thats a human flaw, 99% of us would do it.

What if 8 of Englands first XI found themselves in a scenario that they played once a month... didnt like it, inevitably fall out with someone.. say something in the papers... try to force a move, and then nope.. we are club x, we have so much cash that we can ruin your career... sorry England 8 of your players wont play club football again for 2/3 years until their contracts are up.

Tevez dosent want to play for City, so they should sell him and let him play elsewhere and then we wont have to hear about him playing golf... because guess what? Sky Sports will have a new topic to talk about and 90% of the 'football fans' in this country wont remember Tevez until he nets past 'Ingerland' in the World 'we won it before we turn up' Cup.

Anyway that'll do me, cant be bothered reading the same old tripe that the clappers will post, patting each others back for repeating each others 'instilled views'.

So what you are saying is that if you are a top class footballer that you should be able to stick the middle finger up at whatever club has paid god know how many millions for you and then bugger off to somewhere nicer.

Wow, you are a worry. The fact that you seen to think that because everyone else shares a similar view that is not bat **** crazy, they are following the herd. Nope, sometimes you have to use that brain of yours and think, "maybe I am wrong".

Maybe we should run the whole world on your philosophy. I'm going to start and building company and get millions of pounds worth of contracts then just not bother building them. Its ok though because you should be able to do as you please. If you want to take their money and disappear, whats the harm.
 
So what you are saying is that if you are a top class footballer that you should be able to stick the middle finger up at whatever club has paid god know how many millions for you and then bugger off to somewhere nicer.

Players have been getting away with this for too long...

Negotiating highly lucrative contracts which take into account their promised long term commitment and then changing their minds 12 months later and kicking up a stink to get a transfer.

It's refreshing for once to see a player on the receiving end, especially Tevez who has been nothing but trouble since coming to England.
 
Tevez is hardly on the receiving end of anything, he's still getting his 200 grand a week but instead of training in wet and windy Manchester he's sunning it up in Argentina, playing golf, shagging girls and laughing even louder at City (if possible). He's having a great time. Deserves to be banned for life imo.
 
Mancini is a tool, a spoilt brat who has lucked out by managing Inter in a dire era for Italian football and now at a club that can buy the title.. yet he is still trying his best to lose it.

Mancini should be judged on 1 thing only in his career and thats how woeful his teams are in Europe.
 
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Im arrogant enough to not have to respond to most of the tat you have written.. but to think that City will do it via an Academy is laughable.

Theres only one way with City and thats buying up the best talent.. yes they might buy the best 19 year olds in the world and stick them in the youth team for a month, but I bet you will not see English kids coming out of their youth system and breaking into the first team ala Pedro, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol.. etc whoever from Barca for example, and still being part of a success and then becoming first choice.

Look at this January, you didnt need to sign anyone.. why havent you got a kid who could play bits and bobs in the middle of the park? Yet you sign a 32 year old crippled has-been on loan to do that role.. and you really think that will ever change at the club?

City have one philosophy - spend to win, it wont change and to think that your arabs will accept a ropey year like 5th just to introduce a few kids into the lineup is ridiculous.. ok now they are happy for things to go slow, but once the winning hits, managers will not be allowed to stop - look at Chelsea, thats what you lot will be but worse for it.

And as for Tevez, all this saga does it make City look like they own football, they do what they want to who they want because they have the cash too. IF he is that much of a pain, let him join Milan.. dont demand xx million as you dont need it, all you are doing is keeping a hostile player at the club because financially you can do so.

Name one other club that can afford to waste and ruin a 20-30m player and let them rot at home? Name one other club that wouldnt accept an offer of say 20m for said player to get him off the books and the story out of hte papers?

City want this as they can play the victum, when infact they are the bully boys of the game now.
 
Im arrogant enough to not have to respond to most of the tat you have written.. but to think that City will do it via an Academy is laughable.

Theres only one way with City and thats buying up the best talent.. yes they might buy the best 19 year olds in the world and stick them in the youth team for a month, but I bet you will not see English kids coming out of their youth system and breaking into the first team ala Pedro, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol.. etc whoever from Barca for example, and still being part of a success and then becoming first choice.

Look at this January, you didnt need to sign anyone.. why havent you got a kid who could play bits and bobs in the middle of the park? Yet you sign a 32 year old crippled has-been on loan to do that role.. and you really think that will ever change at the club?

City have one philosophy - spend to win, it wont change and to think that your arabs will accept a ropey year like 5th just to introduce a few kids into the lineup is ridiculous.. ok now they are happy for things to go slow, but once the winning hits, managers will not be allowed to stop - look at Chelsea, thats what you lot will be but worse for it.

And as for Tevez, all this saga does it make City look like they own football, they do what they want to who they want because they have the cash too. IF he is that much of a pain, let him join Milan.. dont demand xx million as you dont need it, all you are doing is keeping a hostile player at the club because financially you can do so.

Name one other club that can afford to waste and ruin a 20-30m player and let them rot at home? Name one other club that wouldnt accept an offer of say 20m for said player to get him off the books and the story out of hte papers?

City want this as they can play the victum, when infact they are the bully boys of the game now.

Well we don’t have more options when FFP comes in so it will have to be.

You won’t see English kids? What you mean like the ones we have already produced? And are producing at the moment?
We currently have a ton of players who are English in the u18's and EDS, in fact nearly every member of the current u18 team is English and many play for England at the various levels.


All our kids who have any chance of making it at a good level are out on loan so they are not stuck in the reserves playing a cup game every few months. Hence why we bring in Pizarro.


You really are very deluded if you think that our owners aren’t going to carry on with our incredibly successful academy.


He isn’t a pain, when has this ever been the case?

It is the media who are making it out as though he matters to our team and have done since the season began.

We didn’t let him join Milan because they offered a loan deal with no obligation to buy. Unless your talking about Inter in which case they offered 21m, we said 25m and they turned that down. Why should we be held to ransom and give in to his demands after what happened and the investment made in him.

Do you really think that the club care what people talk about in the papers?

If they did then our season would already be over, all the players would have left, Sheikh Mansour would have sold up and Mancini would be managing in Serie C.
 
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I dunno, Guidetti aside who you almost let go, I'm not sure there is anyone else capable of cutting it. The lad at Burnley maybe. Greg Cunningham sure as hell isn't :D

The Tevez saga was/is ridiculous and perspective was given I feel when Billy Sharp was scoring goals on the eve of his son's death.

Tevez is totally disconnected from reality.
 
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gotta love the latest comments coming out from his representatives, apparently he's been "treated like a dog" because the manager asked him to warm up and tevez felt he was warmed up enough.

the poor man, my heart bleeds for him NOT.

the manager is telling you what he wants from you, your a player not the manager do your job you muppet.
 
I dunno, Guidetti aside who you almost let go, I'm not sure there is anyone else capable of cutting it. The lad at Burnley maybe. Greg Cunningham sure as hell isn't :D

The Tevez saga was/is ridiculous and perspective was given I feel when Billy Sharp was scoring goals on the eve of his son's death.

Tevez is totally disconnected from reality.

In what way exactly, City's own investigation proved that Tevez categorically did not refuse to play, he was ready to play having already warmed up , Mancini already mid argument told Tevez to warm up..... he was already warmed up, he said he didn't need to warm up, Mancini went off on one.

he was ready to come on the pitch, Mancini wanted him to come on the pitch(so he says, we'll never know, Tevez was ready and he didn't bring him on so.....), Mancini decided to not accept that Tevez was ready then lied on camera.

What did Tevez do wrong..... he was asked to warm up...... he did, he was asked to warm up the SECOND time, he said he was ready to play....... Mancini blew up?
 
haha City won't promote youth players, and it's a stretch to call it an incredibly successful academy, spending loads of money and hoovering up every half decent kid doesn't indicate anything, especially when none of them play in any important games. You'll buy £30m players for those games.
 
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