The Dell 3008WFP Thread

MR.B said:
Dynamic Contrast:

With this turned on this monitor is rated at a contrast ratio of 3000:1. With it off it's rated at 1000:1. This 'feature' simply turns the monitors brightness all the way up to 100% when turned on, it does nothing to the actual contrast. It's a cheap marketing thing to claim 3000:1. Also when DC is turned on you cannot change the brightness anymore. A pointless feature. Even though my Dell 2405's are also rated at 1000:1 the contrast on the 3008 is considerably better, this monitor has great contrast so dont be disappointed by Dynamic Contrast being a joke.
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i've had a test about with the dynamic contrast feature, and it doesn't appear to be exactly as you say.

if i set the brightness on my screen to 100% and show a black screen. when i turn dynamic contrast on, the brightness gets knocked down a little bit.
similarly, if i show an all white screen and turn dynamic contrast on, the screen does NOT appear to dim in brightness.

so it would appear that dynamic contrast does work - however it's simply just an automatic change of brightness levels depending on the overall brightness of the picture. (lower brightness in darker scenes.)

also Mr.B - i dunno why but i seem to like having the brightness level set to 100% , it makes whites on the monitor look even whiter, and maybe it's my eyes playing tricks on me; but i seem to find it easier to read text etc. when the brightness is set to 100%, instead of the default 75%.
 
MTWest said:
Can anyone tell me what the Xbox 360 looks like with a VGA cable @ 1080p on this beast of a monitor? Very interested....!
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I cant get 1080p (1920x1080) to work well over VGA, the picture will not fill the screen properly, no matter if i even adjust it manually.
So i use 1360x768 which looks fine. But as i said before, being as no 360 games are rendered at 1920x1080 it's no problem. They are nearly all rendered at 1280x720 or sometimes lower res (Halo 3, PGR3) so when 1920x1080 is selected the image is just upscaled, so does not look any better than when using 1280x720 or above.
Component and VGA are very equal in picture quality, and there both Analog connections, but you get more pre-set monitor options when using VGA.


Drazek said:
i've had a test about with the dynamic contrast feature, and it doesn't appear to be exactly as you say.

if i set the brightness on my screen to 100% and show a black screen. when i turn dynamic contrast on, the brightness gets knocked down a little bit.
similarly, if i show an all white screen and turn dynamic contrast on, the screen does NOT appear to dim in brightness.

so it would appear that dynamic contrast does work - however it's simply just an automatic change of brightness levels depending on the overall brightness of the picture. (lower brightness in darker scenes.)
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Yeah i see what you mean, it's exactly what my LCD TV's do with DC turned on aswell, it's a very common feature on newer TV's. I didnt notice it before though. I can see it adjusting the brightness too... dont like this feature turned on with a monitor, but for TV's (or maybe watching films on the 3008) it's not bad.

Drazek said:
also Mr.B - i dunno why but i seem to like having the brightness level set to 100% , it makes whites on the monitor look even whiter, and maybe it's my eyes playing tricks on me; but i seem to find it easier to read text etc. when the brightness is set to 100%, instead of the default 75%.
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On 100% it's wayyy too bright, dont it hurt your eyes? While the whites are whiter/brighter, the blacks are not as dark on 100%, so for me around 75% is a nice balance.
I do sit in a pretty dark room though, and at night i dont have the main light on, so 100% is just too much for me.

Anyway are you happy with the monitor? :cool:


Sylver123 said:
MR.B and Drazek,

Was wondering, how good does the windows display look like when using
a screen resolution of 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 for the desktop?
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1920x1200 is pretty good, better than running smaller monitors with less pixels at a non-native res for the desktop. Text is surprisingly good too, although it is a tiny bit deformed, but not as much as usual for a non-native res. It dont really compare to 2560x1600 though. Why would you use a lower res for the desktop?
 
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MR.B said:
On 100% it's wayyy too bright, dont it hurt your eyes? While the whites are whiter/brighter, the blacks are not as dark on 100%, so for me around 75% is a nice balance.
I do sit in a pretty dark room though, and at night i dont have the main light on, so 100% is just too much for me.

Anyway are you happy with the monitor?
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i can't decide if it hurts my eyes or not... lol - mi mean if i stare at a full white screen i can feel my eyes changing (forgot what the word's called). but it doesn't hurt..

i'm in a pitch black room right now, (no windows), and after seeing 100%, every time i take it back down to 75% i keep wanting to knock it back up again, because the colours don't appear to look as vibrant to me >.<

at the mo i've knocked it up to 90%, seems to be a good compromise to me, looks more vibrant than 75% but isn't as super bright as 100% was.


and yes, i'm loving this screen! ;D


P.S. - BLURRING - i've noticed while playing WoW (seems to be more noticable in this game) that when i sidestep from left to right, the text above people's heads seems to blurr as it moves left to right on the screen. - i figured this is a side effect of being an 8ms rated screen. so i nipped next door to check my m8's 2ms TN screen, and his does the exact same thing; - i couldn't tell if his was less blurry than mine or not. but i think you can notice it more on a 30" screen as opposed to a 22", due to the sheer size of the graphics on the 30" making it easier to see the blurryness ;o

Edit: Here's a piccy of my screen; i placed a dvd case on the monitor for size comparison ;p

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I'm soooo getting one of these bad boys!

Can anyone possibly take some pics to try to show the text clarity?

One thing i hate about my current monitor, is the crappt dot pitch of about .28 :S
 
the text clarity on native res is perfect as far as i can tell, though for some reason it seems to be easier on my eyes to read the text if i turn the brigness up to 85+ (currently have it on 90).

ofcourse, more brightness = less deep blacks in images, but meh? >.<

Mr.B - or anyone else who has this screen;

do you notice any 'cracking' sounds when turning this monitor on and then when turning it off?

my guess is that due to the large size of the LCD screen, and the bright back lights, the lights are heating up the LCD panel enough for it to warp a tiny bit, causing those cracking sounds.. - it doesn't seem to be doing anything bad to the screen at all, but i still cringe when i hear them, afraid my LCD is just gonna snap in half all of a suddon lol.

also (even when screen is off) i can push the CD panel and it makes moving/rubbing sounds.. i'm guessing this is another factor because of the very large screen size making it harder to secure the LCD panel perfectly without any movement..

what's your thoughts/input on this one Mr.B ?
 
Iv`e just been reading the threads here about The Dell`s 2408WFP having a very bad input lag problem, witch is not good for gamers, and was wondering if anyone has tested Dell 3008WFP for the same thing as well? It states on the OcUK`s description that this screen has a 8ms Response Time (8ms Grey-TO-Grey) and the Dell`s 2408WFP having a 6ms Response Time, so does this mean that this screen may have an even worser input lag problem than the Dell 2408WFP?

I really think this screen should be fully tested against another screen for this problem by using those virtual stopwatch softwars, etc, to show the amount of input lag there is.

Thank you for answers
 
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input lag is not measured by the ms rating of a screen.

in order to figure out input lag you have to put a screen next to a CRT, and compare the two screens (using cameras mostly) to find out how long after an image shown on the CRT screen will be shown on the LCD screen. - thus input lag.

the ms rating is to do with pixel refresh times, lower ms = lower blurring effect when images shoot across the screen.

the Dell 3008's 8ms isn't that bad, but it is a tiny bit noticeable. - though i seem to be living with it quite alright! - i tested my friends 2ms 22" against my 30" 8ms dell, and i couldn't see that much of a difference with blurring in the two screens, his 2ms samsung appeared to blur just as much.. - however due to the sheer size of the 30" screen i think it's easier to spot on the Dell because the picture is just that much bigger.
 
Anyone know when this monitors actually going to be in stock? Is this out of stock everywhere due to the fire at that LCD panel factory?
 
so when the hell are these in stock? Have been monitoring the site ( no pun intended) for a while now and they still aren't in stock, or are they ordered on special request??
 
I checked in Feb and some of the retailers suggested May. I bought a 2408 instead and I'm not sure if I'm going the 3008 after all, I'm happier with the performance improvements due to running at a lower resolution!
 
DazzaUK said:
Dell actually state : 16th MAy in UK for stock

probably why i'll pick a SM305T from samsung - got stock on 2nd April :)
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SM305T is a inferior screen though. would you guys who have one say its worth the price tag??

and what if i could pick one up for £950inc? worth it?

wanting a 30" back and i dont want to chance buying a 3007WFP second hand to find out its **** and ive wasted my money so id rather get something with warranty.

StevenG
 
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