The disappearance of Nicola Bulley

[scarps]

I don't get certain folks logic suggesting the dog would jump into the river after if she fell in, but wouldn't follow her if she was abducted

Because the news reporters keep giving us a detailed description of a kissing gate, saying a dog cant get through it, but all the time are standing in front of fencing either side of gate that is falling over in places with massive holes in it.

Public just seem to believe what they are told and not what they could see.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Apparently her normal entry and exit part of her walk is not covered by CCTV

 

[tenofspades]

the husband thing is nuts. You'd kill your wife in a garage, not in a public place. Just bloody anti-men women looking for some reason to doubt the husband.

I'm still convinced she fell in but abduction, or choosing to disappear are just as likely options.

 

[tenofspades]

Why did the dog not jump in the water if she fell in?

sometimes a dog is lost in it's own world sniffing things.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

the husband thing is nuts. You'd kill your wife in a garage, not in a public place. Just bloody anti-men women looking for some reason to doubt the husband.

I'm still convinced she fell in but abduction, or choosing to disappear are just as likely options.

That and the fact he has a CCTV alibi

The possibility of running away with a new partner isn't unplausible either.

I'm beggining to feel the abduction theory is less plausible. They would have to walk or carry her a significant distance. If you want to abduct someone you do it near as possible to the gettaway vehicle.

So I lean back to drowned or decided to run away with a new lover.

 

[thenewoc]

Have they not brought in sniffer dogs to see if they could pick up her scent, whether it leads away from the river or not?

 

[Jono8]

So I lean back to drowned or decided to run away with a new lover.

I suspect one of these two as well. The social media blackout from December seems odd.

However, the running away theory seems odd considering she had young children. She must have really hated her life to just abandon them like that.

 

[tenofspades]

they've done sniffer dogs. On the abduction theory, there's a major motorway right nearby. So if someone abducted they could be absolutely anywhere. But you would expect someone to see something.

Other permutations -someone has 'fished' the body out and not notified anyone. Unlikely.

Mother run away with a new partner- turn her back on her kids? I guess if the husband was really intolerable.

January is time of the year of depression so that's not discountable. But you wouldn't arrange a playdate coming soon, unless something triggered from the meeting.

A 'slow' injury gained, but then you would more likely fall on the floor than the really unlucky fall into the water.

 

[Bassmansam]

January is time of the year of depression so that's not discountable. But you wouldn't arrange a playdate coming soon, unless something triggered from the meeting.

Is it more depressing than any other winter month?

 

[tenofspades]

This is starting to get a bit weird. Why is so much being spent on this one case? Please, better theories than "because she was good-looking" because a] I don't believe that theory holds water [pun unintentional] and b] she wasn't.

because unlike other missing people- there's a small possibility of foul play here.

 

[tenofspades]

Is it more depressing than any other winter month?

well has the lowest amount of light in the year.

 

[sigma]

Has anyone considered it was....

Not sure

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

I suspect one of these two as well. The social media blackout from December seems odd.

However, the running away theory seems odd considering she had young children. She must have really hated her life to just abandon them like that.

I imagine she would have to have a personality dissorder that resulted in her having very low levels of empathy, high level of self centeredness and see all people in her life as objects or property. In such a scenario where she values a new partner over a current partner, children and her dog, then it's possible she leaves the current family for a new partner. That's just idle speculation though, I have no idea what type of person she is/was

 

[sigma]

the husband thing is nuts. You'd kill your wife in a garage, not in a public place. Just bloody anti-men women looking for some reason to doubt the husband.

I'm still convinced she fell in but abduction, or choosing to disappear are just as likely options.

Abducted her in the park, not killed her in the park.

 

[Minusorange]

That and the fact he has a CCTV alibi

I don't think the husband did it but there is a youtuber in Ireland who has been arrested for murder, apparently his alibi was he was live streaming on youtube when the murder happened but this live stream was actually prerecorded and streamed "live" while he was allegedly doing the murder, can't CCTV be faked as well ?

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

I don't think the husband did it but there is a youtuber in Ireland who has been arrested for murder, apparently his alibi was he was live streaming on youtube when the murder happened but this live stream was actually prerecorded and streamed "live" while he was allegedly doing the murder, can't CCTV be faked as well ?

Yes, but they would have ways of telling and verifying that it is real. For example, that youtuber case you are talking about, there were huge red flags in the "stream" that made it incredibly suspicious.

 

[Jono8]

they've done sniffer dogs. On the abduction theory, there's a major motorway right nearby. So if someone abducted they could be absolutely anywhere. But you would expect someone to see something.

Other permutations -someone has 'fished' the body out and not notified anyone. Unlikely.

Mother run away with a new partner- turn her back on her kids? I guess if the husband was really intolerable.

January is time of the year of depression so that's not discountable. But you wouldn't arrange a playdate coming soon, unless something triggered from the meeting.

A 'slow' injury gained, but then you would more likely fall on the floor than the really unlucky fall into the water.

Unless the teams meeting and playdate text were just a ruse (IE she wanted everyone to think she fell into the river).

Seems all a it implausible though as it would be very easy for her to be recognised after being in the news so much.

 

[GGizmo]

The police are now trying to find two suspicious men seen in the area.

Witness reportedly saw ‘suspicious' men near Nicola Bulley's route

Two ‘suspicious’ men allegedly seen near missing Nicola's dog walking route as police are handed new CCTV

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Police wrong to say Nicola Bulley is in river, former Met officer says

‘Neither the facts nor the evidence’ support theory, former Met officer says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Angilion]

I don't think the husband did it but there is a youtuber in Ireland who has been arrested for murder, apparently his alibi was he was live streaming on youtube when the murder happened but this live stream was actually prerecorded and streamed "live" while he was allegedly doing the murder, can't CCTV be faked as well ?

Only with access to the CCTV system and not easily. If you have enough access you could delete footage and replace it with a copy of footage from another period of time, but doing that in a way that wouldn't be detected should be very difficult. The youtube scenario you refer to is significantly different because it would be based on broadcasting footage that the person had complete control over, just passing it off as being recorded at a different time. No need to splice it in with existing footage. No need to make lighting match. No need to make weather match. No need to acquire access to someone else's equipment to insert the footage.

 

[Chris Wilson]

Not sure

Rather desperate to fake a quote of mine, I assume you have some sort of chip on your shoulder about immigrants, but faking quotes is a bit off old boy....