The Division. Are we interested?

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TonyTurbo78 said:
just annoys me these youtube celebs....and I use that word very loosely, are all like Zomg it's almost as good as the E3 videos. I'd rather they just said yes it's slightly better than console as you would expect, but nowhere near the level of E3. Just tell the blinking truth that's all I want.
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Listen to his words - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ85KYvRPxo&feature=youtu.be&t=17s

"Thanks to Ubisoft who flew me out there"

You could see the disappointment on Angry Joe's face, but he said nothing, although he would have taken that game apart otherwise. Just another form of PR.

Steampunk said:
Doesn't really look next gen though does it? More like console graphics just with higher res. The lighting looks particularly flat. And still, the same tiny console FOV...
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Just buy 2 more monitors or TVs, the game will have support, because the devs are into PC gaming, they respects their roots, will play the game on PC, bla bla bla! :D /sarcasm.
 
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caff said:
Looks very nice, but will it actually be any fun to play?

It just seems like a city-based squad shooter but with some potential for some DayZ-like griefing/trolling/cheating. Maybe I've read it wrong but the trailers and gameplay I've seen all look very derivative.
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It's an RPG, not a shooter, think a cross between Mass Effect, Borderlands and Diablo and you'll be on the right track. All about the levels, loot and stats.

I'll just leave this here to help anyone trying to cut through the bile that has spewed all over the thread :

1) The game doesn't look the same as the E3 2013 trailer.
2) It is a very good-looking PC game, one of the best around.
3) It's got loads of customisation and options for PC players, including multi-monitor, HUD positioning etc.
4) The beta starts on the 28th for XB1 and 29th for PC and PS4, so you can try it out and make your own mind up if it's any good.
 
The game doesn't even look like the game... It looks like assassins creed unity engine turned down even further. Flat flat and more flat. Why are people defending this? You call it "bickering" or "bile" but if people don't call it out then it keeps happening.

This is a thread about Division and unfortunately the biggest thing this week is how Ubisoft yet again completely lied. Even said they wouldn't pull a WD again LOL! And we're supposed to just sit back and be like "cool, I guess I'll just let it go and play the beta". They posted two "4k screenshots" that just happen to be complete lies hahahaha but it's cool right? :D

I'm not saying it won't be a fun game.. we can't judge that yet. But we CAN judge the let down of environment, textures, AO, proper illumination, everything else promised that has been ripped out for whatever reason (and I'm sure we can all guess why though).

We're angry and this is where we voice it.
 
They said they won't make the mistakes they made with Watch Dogs, and all gameplay footage/screens from now on will be up to the final product.

Can you point me to a single piece of evidence to suggest that promise has been broken? Bear in mind :

1) E3 2013 was in 2013. Watch Dogs was 2014. Time machines don't exist.

2) You don't have a frame of reference to claim those 4k screenshots are faked. Comparing a 4K Ultra carefully framed shot with strong contrasting lighting and weather on a complex scene, to some youtube compressed night-time scenes with flat lighting is not grounds to claim they are fake. Every visual effect in those screens is present in the game as far as I can tell.
 
mid_gen said:
They said they won't make the mistakes they made with Watch Dogs, and all gameplay footage/screens from now on will be up to the final product.

Can you point me to a single piece of evidence to suggest that promise has been broken? Bear in mind :

1) E3 2013 was in 2013. Watch Dogs was 2014. Time machines don't exist.

2) You don't have a frame of reference to claim those 4k screenshots are faked. Comparing a 4K Ultra carefully framed shot with strong contrasting lighting and weather on a complex scene, to some youtube compressed night-time scenes with flat lighting is not grounds to claim they are fake. Every visual effect in those screens is present in the game as far as I can tell.
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First off just look at those 4k screens and then compare with annyyyyy footage shown pc or otherwise. One looks great, the other looks quite well, flat as hell to say the least. It's not even close, but to get specific...

The ambient occlusion (maybe that's why it looks so flat??)

Dynamic illumination.. there's global illumination in there but doesn't seem to be completely dynamic as originally shown.

The shaders / damage

No more dynamic reflections


The depth of the environments has been pulled back a ton (just like WD)... remember things like the gusts and paper debris etc getting pulled in WD? People pay attention to these things, they bring atmosphere and immersion and you guys just ripped it out again.

Oh and comparing it to WD has absolutely nothing to do with time frame, nice shift. It's the fact that WD was originally shown to have such and such features, graphics, etc.. and then clearly not only took them out of the console versions but still had them in the PC but literally turned them off all while stating they did nothing of the sort and that the PC version was the "best" version and will look just like the original footage yadda yadda.


It just sucks to keep getting dumped on as gaming enthusiasts especially PC enthusiasts that pay good money for this stuff. I hope when the game is released it's a smack in the face and all is awesome. If it truly looked like those screenshots we wouldn't be having this argument and you know it.

Richie said:
I'm going to play the Beta and make my judgement from there including the actual gameplay... To refuse a game simply because of slightly lower graphics is silly. I rate games on the actual gameplay.
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Not refusing the game.. I have a beta key and plan to play the hell out of it over the weekend. Still doesn't mean we can't and shouldn't be upset and vocal of the downgrade.
 
YB2ndBEST said:
If it truly looked like those screenshots we wouldn't be having this argument and you know it.
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Does it look like the screenshots? Presumably you have a 4k ultra capable rig and copy of the PC version and have setup similar scenes with the same lighting and environment and compared.

You sound like a SJW desperately hoping for something to be offended by. The beta is a few days away, make your own mind up instead of making poor assumptions based on compressed night time scenes with flat lighting in a desperate attempt to be outraged.
 
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One thing I wish a game like this which is coming to both console and PC would have is the ability to use the same character across both platforms, so I could play on my PC or console with the same progression.

I love gaming on my PC especially when a game supports higher detail environments but also have friends on PS4 I like to play with.
 
Would be nice, I'm probably going to play on both, but depends a bit how grindy it is, can't afford to sink vast amounts of time into two platforms.
 
mid_gen said:
Does it look like the screenshots? Presumably you have a 4k ultra capable rig and copy of the PC version and have setup similar scenes with the same lighting and environment and compared.

You sound like a SJW desperately hoping for something to be offended by. The beta is a few days away, make your own mind up instead of making poor assumptions based on compressed night time scenes with flat lighting in a desperate attempt to be outraged.
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LOL thanks. I actually am on a 4k monitor and will be playing the beta in 4k, but even if not is there a 4k texture pack that gets turned on? Or are they just less compressed? People act like 4k changes everything. Look at GTA V.. going from 1080 to 1440 to 2160 looks the same if all your other settings are the same if you're comparing similar PPI. It's merely a form of AA for smaller monitors having higher PPI. I'm on a 40" 4k so it's literally the same as having a 27" 1440p but the massive screen is worth it with that PPI.

earlier in this thread I was nothing but positive. I even posted some of the first pc footage that was leaked only on LOW settings and was fairly positive! But when the footage comes out showing "ultra" settings and only marginally looks better than console like it's just a res bump with AA added then things are bad.

I was really really really pulling for this to not be a WD which is probably why I'm so butt hurt lol.

Better get used to it though (if you do actually work for them), because you already know that if it really is a downgrade there will be plenty more people in outrage and there will be no hiding behind "it's not even out yet, do you have the game yet blah blah"

I'll leave it be until this weekend ;) See you soon!

Oh and I'll GLADLY eat my words and sing praise if it's legitimately not an xbone clone with higher res :D
 
AStaley said:
One thing I wish a game like this which is coming to both console and PC would have is the ability to use the same character across both platforms, so I could play on my PC or console with the same progression.

I love gaming on my PC especially when a game supports higher detail environments but also have friends on PS4 I like to play with.
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All cross platform games should have that, it would be awesome :)
 
YB2ndBEST said:
I'll leave it be until this weekend ;) See you soon!

Oh and I'll GLADLY eat my words and sing praise if it's legitimately not an xbone clone with higher res :D
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Cool, I think everyone will agree that this discussion has been done to death now, let's wait and see :)

My uplay is 'midgen', we can settle it in the Dark Zone :D
 
mid_gen said:
Cool, I think everyone will agree that this discussion has been done to death now, let's wait and see :)

My uplay is 'midgen', we can settle it in the Dark Zone :D
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I didn't mean anything bad by that comment btw, or any of my comments. Just venting frustration. I do apologize if I came off as directly attacking :(

It's 5am here and been gaming all night lol

But yes I'll refrain from anymore thrashing until beta ;) I'll add you on uplay :D I'm Turbo12a on there
 
Hey I get why people don't have high expectations, but I really enjoyed my time playing it, more than any other game in years. Would be a shame if people let the E3 2013 comparison cloud their experience. Plenty of moments I thought "Damn this game looks good", especially solo in the dark zone in the middle of a heavy snowfall and fog, hearing gun fire echoing off the buildings nearby.
 
mid_gen said:
It's an RPG, not a shooter, think a cross between Mass Effect, Borderlands and Diablo and you'll be on the right track. All about the levels, loot and stats.

I'll just leave this here to help anyone trying to cut through the bile that has spewed all over the thread :

1) The game doesn't look the same as the E3 2013 trailer.
2) It is a very good-looking PC game, one of the best around.
3) It's got loads of customisation and options for PC players, including multi-monitor, HUD positioning etc.
4) The beta starts on the 28th for XB1 and 29th for PC and PS4, so you can try it out and make your own mind up if it's any good.
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Behave

Do you know why people chose PC gaming over console?

Atleast your head is out from the sand, it's almost like the closer we get to the beta release the more your guilty conscious is compelled to reveal the truth.

Big coorporate companies need people like you (loyal employees), weak minded shills and deceitful content creators who are willing to lie to get their pay cheque, free lunches, exclusive content and views. It's the consumer who is the biggest loser when they are sold something that was misrepresented and hoodwinked. It's why for the past 2 years I don't even watch videos from certain youtubers as I don't support their deceitful acts. If AngryJoe has done the same then without hesitation I will stop watching and unsubscribe from his videos.

So thanks for telling us it looks nothing like the E3 reveal. It shouldn't have been forcing a blood out from a stone.

People like TB can't be bought for a poultry price and if that is the case then everyone needs to sieve the chaff from the wheat and support the right people and put and end to deceitful content creators by unsubscribing and never watching their videos again.
 
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