*** The Division Thread 2.0 ***

foster grant said:
Fingers crossed :) lol


OK so Downloading now
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should have started the download, cancelled and closed down Uplay.

then moved the contents of the original game in to the PTS folder

saves downloading 32GB :D

few new caches, combat assignment cache and field proficiency cache as well.

see they have changed slots on gear for weapon mods or performance ones with no more able to stick in what you want
 
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PTS bored me. Essentially what we have spent time farming for the past several months is wasted for yet another grind to get better loot which leads to no end game reward. It's like this game is on a spin cycle 30 degree wash and is on rinse and repeat.

We just need more content tbh and 1.4 is what the game should have been on release. DZ is still a numbers and luck game.

Solo players are under an illusion if they can think they can farm it. Yeh you probably got lucky getting an empty server during unsociable hours but chances are teams will wipe you and steal any loot you spent the last half an hour collecting.

When people are geared to the teeth again DZ will be how the game is in it's present state. During the beta I remembered people were generally collaborative and farming together. I just hope DZ gets a shake up also and Massive look beyond PVP being the end game experience.
 
Twirlywoos said:
PTS bored me. Essentially what we have spent time farming for the past several months is wasted for yet another grind to get better loot which leads to no end game reward. It's like this game is on a spin cycle 30 degree wash and is on rinse and repeat.

We just need more content tbh and 1.4 is what the game should have been on release. DZ is still a numbers and luck game.

Solo players are under an illusion if they can think they can farm it. Yeh you probably got lucky getting an empty server during unsociable hours but chances are teams will wipe you and steal any loot you spent the last half an hour collecting.

When people are geared to the teeth again DZ will be how the game is in it's present state. During the beta I remembered people were generally collaborative and farming together. I just hope DZ gets a shake up also and Massive look beyond PVP being the end game experience.
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Considering the amount you have played, you should know that any new content needs to be implemented on a working platform which 1.3 isn't. Who cares if an update is boring, if it fixes underlying issues then its good.

You also know that PVP is next on their agenda and once again, why would they fix PVP specifically on top of a broken core experience, when their PVE content is even more broken for the vast majority of their player base. Sure have they fixed 8/12/16 man groups or checkpoint glitching? No, but was it in their scope for this update? No it wasn't, so complaining about it is a waste of time.

Solo farming is 100% possible outside of the darkzone. Named world bosses, HVT's(daily and weekly), Missions on varying difficulty, UG and so on so they never need to go into the darkzone. This was also Massive mission and they have succeeded in this IMO as I got some good loot in the UG - solo! Besides, that is the darkzone, it is meant to be like that but their bracketing is still balls lol

I went into this update sceptical, I thought it would be boring but as soon as I killed my first NPC, my top 1% goggles got lifted and I saw the game for what they intend it to be - fun with a bit of a challenge at the same. I mean look at the comments above, people who haven't played this game gave it a shot and found it fun! Snaggle - when was the last time you saw him? Ed same story.

I am already rank 32 in the DZ I think, I spent a lot of time there but only because it was fun in the lowest DZ bracket - PVE is just as fun and is also a challenge.

Try and level yourself to GS229, without a group, you will come into challenges, probably need to go down a WT level as well at some point until you min max or at least optimise the gear for that level. I tried to go as far as I could solo but ended up dropping down a WT once to try and get gear with more armour, and then I went up again.

I mean what would you rather have? The current game where you spend most of your time hiding in smart cover and farming 4hm forever with a minimal playerbase, or a game that allows you to move around, be more tactical but also feel more powerful?

I know which one I want now, and I am sure plans are in the works for more difficult content at some point as well.

EDIT: I have put SO much time into my gear, so much farming and all my stuff is wasted as well now, but I would rather have a massive playerbase and farm again than stick with a broken game.

PTS changed my opinion on everything but the road to min max is quite fun and I think 1.4 will make it a bit less tedious
 
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I think gamble pointed out the main issue, why add more content in a platform that's clearly broken? Sure it sucks a bit for those who put in a lot of time to get perfect gear, but the new patch plays better in every possible way and far more engaging, even with the naff starter gear.

I'm excited about playing this again for the first time since a release.
 
I remember the last time I played this game. I was trying to recalibrate a stat and kept getting the same redundant "bonus" on every roll. This led to a requirement for me to grind more materials. So, I spent hours grinding for intel in order to run the high value target missions and tokens to run the underground. After finally acquiring all the materials I needed, I headed to the re cal station only discover that I still needed some weapon re cal kits. So, I headed into the dz to try and loot some, upon which I was killed by a group of people camping the checkpoint doorway. I uninstalled five minutes later.

The futility of grind for this in order to grind for that only works if there is either a permanence to your characters increased stats, or if there is some form of progressive end game content to aim for. If 1.4 does anything to alleviate the grind ad infinitum for negligible gains, then I can see myself playing again come the Xmas holidays.
 
Gamble is right - the rush race to be the highest possible level spoils the game... it was so boring having great gear sets and constantly farming where most of it was junk....
 
Im looking forward to remaking my gearsets to be honest with the new stats, will be really interesting.

Just need to swallow that lump in my throat when I first see the state they will be in though haha!!!

I need a nap, so tired!
 
-Gamble- said:
Considering the amount you have played, you should know that any new content needs to be implemented on a working platform which 1.3 isn't.

1.3 IS working. It does not cater for solo pve players and the gameplay isn't dynamic enough which 1.4 has fixed.

Who cares if an update is boring, if it fixes underlying issues then its good.

What are the underlying issues then?

You also know that PVP is next on their agenda and once again, why would they fix PVP specifically on top of a broken core experience, when their PVE content is even more broken for the vast majority of their player base.

Who are the vast majority of their playerbase?

Sure have they fixed 8/12/16 man groups or checkpoint glitching? No, but was it in their scope for this update? No it wasn't, so complaining about it is a waste of time.

Considering that endgame is PVP seems a bit dumb that they have neglected the issues with DZ. All they have done is recreate a more balanced experience akin to the beta which after everyone is geared leads to the same rinse and repeat cycle.

Solo farming is 100% possible outside of the darkzone. Named world bosses, HVT's(daily and weekly), Missions on varying difficulty, UG and so on so they never need to go into the darkzone.

Glad you said solo, as I said earlier 1.4 makes the gameplay experience enjoyable for solo players.

This was also Massive mission and they have succeeded in this IMO as I got some good loot in the UG - solo! Besides, that is the darkzone, it is meant to be like that but their bracketing is still balls lol

There is that word again - solo.

I went into this update sceptical, I thought it would be boring but as soon as I killed my first NPC, my top 1% goggles got lifted and I saw the game for what they intend it to be - fun with a bit of a challenge at the same. I mean look at the comments above, people who haven't played this game gave it a shot and found it fun! Snaggle - when was the last time you saw him? Ed same story.

Don't know who snaggle is, is he a competitive player? Because the clan mates who I played with moved on ages ago and started playing overwatch instead. I understand that there is a grinding element to the game but end game content has been pretty poor so far.

I am already rank 32 in the DZ I think, I spent a lot of time there but only because it was fun in the lowest DZ bracket - PVE is just as fun and is also a challenge.

Wait until people are geared up and we shall see how DZ changes. The meta will shift and people will just run firecrest and predators.

Try and level yourself to GS229, without a group, you will come into challenges, probably need to go down a WT level as well at some point until you min max or at least optimise the gear for that level.

I tried to go as far as I could solo but ended up dropping down a WT once to try and get gear with more armour, and then I went up again.


This was a sentiment echoed to NowGamer by creative director Magnus Jansen, who claimed that while you can play it solo it isn’t recommended. https://www.nowgamer.com/6-reasons-why-vr-wont-take-off/

I mean what would you rather have? The current game where you spend most of your time hiding in smart cover and farming 4hm forever with a minimal playerbase, or a game that allows you to move around, be more tactical but also feel more powerful?

In a loot driven game it doesn't matter how you get loot, whether you stand stationary in a cover or run around like headless chickens. As long as you get the reward that is all that matters. The content is what needs to be there, to promote dynamic gameplay as well as what they have achieved in 1.4. A horde mode waved based map like falcon lost can never be fun or challenging.

I know which one I want now, and I am sure plans are in the works for more difficult content at some point as well.

EDIT: I have put SO much time into my gear, so much farming and all my stuff is wasted as well now, but I would rather have a massive playerbase and farm again than stick with a broken game.

PTS changed my opinion on everything but the road to min max is quite fun and I think 1.4 will make it a bit less tedious
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1.3 IS working. It does not cater for solo pve players and the gameplay isn't dynamic enough which 1.4 has fixed.

What are the underlying issues then?
Your first point covers this tbh

Who are the vast majority of their playerbase?
same as above

Considering that endgame is PVP seems a bit dumb that they have neglected the issues with DZ. All they have done is recreate a more balanced experience akin to the beta which after everyone is geared leads to the same rinse and repeat cycle.

How did they come to their decision on what to fix actually? I cant remember if they did a poll or what not.

Glad you said solo, as I said earlier 1.4 makes the gameplay experience enjoyable for solo players.

There is that word again - solo.

Yeah the solo play is fun but I still prefer team play. Mainly for the banter, theorycrafting or chatting crap lol

but I noticed last night you get hit harder in a group in terms of stats which is a nice touch. I was going well with my armour at 45%, went into UG, grouped up it reduced by 15% I think.

Also, I still think Heroic modes will be just that. Looking forward to trying it

Don't know who snaggle is, is he a competitive player? Because the clan mates who I played with moved on ages ago and started playing overwatch instead. I understand that there is a grinding element to the game but end game content has been pretty poor so far.

Ah I think he was about before you were over in OCUK discord a lot

Reddit seems busier though, have some dudes not come back? Cant remember the names you said

Wait until people are geared up and we shall see how DZ changes. The meta will shift and people will just run firecrest and predators.

I don't know how they will ever over come a meta unless they strip PVP back to basics

This was a sentiment echoed to NowGamer by creative director Magnus Jansen, who claimed that while you can play it solo it isn’t recommended. https://www.nowgamer.com/6-reasons-w...wont-take-off/

Everything in this game can be solo'd now....I think. I still don't know about heroic but im starting to think that that might not be soloable.

In a loot driven game it doesn't matter how you get loot, whether you stand stationary in a cover or run around like headless chickens. As long as you get the reward that is all that matters. The content is what needs to be there, to promote dynamic gameplay as well as what they have achieved in 1.4. A horde mode waved based map like falcon lost can never be fun or challenging.

I am just bored of 4hm, that's the main sentiment lol!

Are you going to play PTS when our characters get moved over? That will be interesting!!
 
i think we can all agree that the game balance is so out of whack right now.

i thought i heard them say pvp was not something for 1.4 but will be sorted after once the game core was sorted.
 
neil_g said:
as they said in the SoTG special report, only the minority (i.e. the top 1% of max optimised chars) will be able to solo everything.
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would have more useful to quote my whole point which basically agrees with that lol :D

Everything in this game can be solo'd now....I think. I still don't know about heroic but im starting to think that that might not be soloable.


Exception being DN - damn buttons!
 
-Gamble- said:
would have more useful to quote my whole point which basically agrees with that lol :D

Everything in this game can be solo'd now....I think. I still don't know about heroic but im starting to think that that might not be soloable.


Exception being DN - damn buttons!
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yeah sorry wasnt disagreeing with you btw :D
 
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