The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim announced

ColEx · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:06

bhavv said:
*map map map map map map?

Seriously, I want more cloth maps with my RPGs, but I hardly ever get any.

I think you have enough! your whole desk will be covered in them and other stuff to

Sleepery · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:08

bhavv said:
Anyone dissing either Skyrim, or premium quality maps from here onwards had better prepare themselves with one of these:

http://www.solonsecurity.co.uk/product_info.php?product_id=323&cat=26

Yeah, cos you've never jumped into a thread with the sole intention of dissing something

Frenzy · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:19

I can't believe how long I've resisted reading this thread

I want that feeling of discovering something so epic and fantastic when I first play the game, I don't want to know anything about it!

Saying that I've seen the dragon video

shuffle · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:21

Rufio said:
The map sounds perfect for a special kind of towel, i might just pre-order it now.

Or if the game turns out pants (not likely)
you could wipe your **** on the map

bhavv · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:34

Sleepery said:
Yeah, cos you've never jumped into a thread with the sole intention of dissing something

Those abominations are not worthy compared to the glorious TES :mad:

ScarySquirrel · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:35

bhavv said:
.....

See this fire?

Jump in and burn

Why?

bhavv · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:37

ScarySquirrel said:
Why?

/Notseriousface.

ScarySquirrel · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:38

bhavv said:
/Notseriousface.

I'm really confused. Sorry, but I haven't followed the game, so just wanted a general opinion on whether the game was shaping up to be any good or not.

IIDeathCubeKII · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:40

Frenzy said:
I can't believe how long I've resisted reading this thread

I want that feeling of discovering something so epic and fantastic when I first play the game, I don't want to know anything about it!

Saying that I've seen the dragon video

I'm just concerned that the enemies will level up with you, destroying any feeling of progression, it completely ruined Oblivion.

I want enemies wondering around from the start of the game that are hugely overpowered and must be avoided. I don't want the developer to hold my hand. I'm too worried of spoilers to look this up, but if this is the case I might cancel my pre order and play Baldur's Gate 2... Again.

Frenzy · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:43

Very true, the leveling was a bit frustrating but mods did come out to remedy this. A lot of people felt the same so it was created very quickly

bhavv · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:48

ScarySquirrel said:
I'm really confused. Sorry, but I haven't followed the game, so just wanted a general opinion on whether the game was shaping up to be any good or not.

Many of us only just started following the game over the last week, and turned into raving fanboys

ScarySquirrel · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:49

IIDeathCubeKII said:
I'm just concerned that the enemies will level up with you, destroying any feeling of progression, it completely ruined Oblivion.

I want enemies wondering around from the start of the game that are hugely overpowered and must be avoided. I don't want the developer to hold my hand. I'm too worried of spoilers to look this up, but if this is the case I might cancel my pre order and play Baldur's Gate 2... Again.

I just found this:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveling

Various aspects of the game are leveled. This means that as your character increases in level, some enemies become more challenging but also the quality of the items you find becomes better. However, the leveling system in Skyrim has been altered from that used in Oblivion, in response to criticisms of Oblivion's leveling system.

Different locations in Skyrim have different inherent difficulties. In other words, some dungeons are designed to be too difficult for low-level characters to enter. More challenging dungeons are generally located at higher elevations, meaning that early in the game players may want to avoid mountainous regions. However, more difficult dungeons contain better rewards. In addition, some high-quality items can be randomly found even early in the game.

The level of a given dungeon is fixed the first time you enter it. Therefore, places that you enter early in the game will always contain relatively weak enemies, even if you return to the same dungeon at the end of the game.

IIDeathCubeKII · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:49

Frenzy said:
Very true, the leveling was a bit frustrating but mods did come out to remedy this. A lot of people felt the same so it was created very quickly

Totally forgot about mods, had Oblivion on the 360

Guess I'd wait until the modders fixed the game instead of cancelling my order.

Edit:

ScarySquirrel said:
I just found this:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveling

Sounds, okay

fendi · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:55

IIDeathCubeKII said:
I'm just concerned that the enemies will level up with you, destroying any feeling of progression, it completely ruined Oblivion.

I want enemies wondering around from the start of the game that are hugely overpowered and must be avoided. I don't want the developer to hold my hand. I'm too worried of spoilers to look this up, but if this is the case I might cancel my pre order and play Baldur's Gate 2... Again.

BG2 + Expansions is one of the greatest RPGs of all time. And it had a great manual

FishPolice · 4 Nov 2011 at 13:55

IIDeathCubeKII said:
I'm keeping my order with simply games. The map will stay in the box, probably look at it once.

same here (mine would stay in the box anyway and my son would lose his map within 3 minutes only for it to be found weeks later under his bed covered in crumbs & cobwebs etc)

platypus · 4 Nov 2011 at 14:44

Getting so excited for this game!

Jaffar · 4 Nov 2011 at 14:45

CaptainRAVE said:
Worldwide release at 12.01am local time on 11/11/11 - so Australia will get it first

Hmm, I imagine there'll be a few Australian VPNs in use next Thursday then.

Scrutinize · 4 Nov 2011 at 14:51

The level of a given dungeon is fixed the first time you enter it. Therefore, places that you enter early in the game will always contain relatively weak enemies, even if you return to the same dungeon at the end of the game.

So does this mean the loot tables will be reduced too?

I guess this means you will need to avoid the majority of dungeons until you are sufficiently levelled at risk or gimping your end game?

Does anyone know the scaling yet and does it cap out at level 25-35 for items and questables like Oblivion.

bhavv · 4 Nov 2011 at 14:57

That sounds rubbish - go into a dungeon at level 1, and it stays at level 1 for the whole game, seriously???

I'd rather that there there be a fixed number of high level dungeons that give out fixed loot that is hard to get.

I suppose gear doesnt matter in TES since Enchanting makes you the best stuff you can get.

shuffle · 4 Nov 2011 at 14:58

What I'd like to know is if you clear a cave/dungeon. Leave, and then revisit it later, do the enemies respawn?
In Oblivion they re-appeard and it drove me nuts, no satisfaction in killing the enemies. Then Fallout 3, no respawning, all good.. Hopefully the same for Skyrim.