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As expensive as Cameron Green has been he's looked the most likely to take a wicket but Pope gifted that!!!

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And just as I post that Green finds his inner Steve Harmison and bowls it wide of leg slip for four. :cry:
 
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This is the bit where they need to be a little more patient in Bazball, can see they don't want to let the australians get on top of them by being the aggressor, but it can quickly turn around unless you occasionally temper that desire. Fantastic cricket so far for the 200. seeing some of the economy rates of these bowlers is like watching T20.
 
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I'm not sure I can watch this. We are having a go at everything and at some point we are going to start losing more cheap wickets.
 
fez said:
I'm not sure I can watch this. We are having a go at everything and at some point we are going to start losing more cheap wickets.
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Agreed - aggression is important, and when you've got the other side's bowlers on the back foot you want to take it to them, but it always used to be the way that if you got a boundary in an over you could then play the remainder of that over much more safely, knowing that you were still taking 4-6 from it. You'd still dispatch bad balls, but wouldn't go nuts.

We don't seem to have any temperance to our aggression at all. The best batsmen in the world - the ones who accumulate the really big scores - are aggressive, but know when that's not appropriate. Too many of our batsmen throw their bats at everything. They'll get 40s and 50s, but none of our batsmen aside from Root ever looks like they might stick around for a big big century.
 
manic111 said:
Agreed - aggression is important, and when you've got the other side's bowlers on the back foot you want to take it to them, but it always used to be the way that if you got a boundary in an over you could then play the remainder of that over much more safely, knowing that you were still taking 4-6 from it. You'd still dispatch bad balls, but wouldn't go nuts.

We don't seem to have any temperance to our aggression at all. The best batsmen in the world - the ones who accumulate the really big scores - are aggressive, but know when that's not appropriate. Too many of our batsmen throw their bats at everything. They'll get 40s and 50s, but none of our batsmen aside from Root ever looks like they might stick around for a big big century.
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As said...no daddy hundreds with batting like this!
 
manic111 said:
We've lost three of our top four pulling in the first innings of a test. Bazball is great but it needs a little tweak.
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Just a tweak, it has to be adapted depending on what's happening.

Just a little tweak though. I mean that tweak could just be connect well enough so you don't get out. :)
 
adidan said:
Just a tweak, it has to be adapted depending on what's happening.

Just a little tweak though. I mean that tweak could just be connect well enough so you don't get out. :)
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Yes, of course. If this was the second innings and we were chasing 200 in a session obviously you let fly. But it's not, and we're not. I'm not saying don't play aggressively, I'm just saying stop trying to pull everything over deep square leg.
 
manic111 said:
Yes, of course. If this was the second innings and we were chasing 200 in a session obviously you let fly. But it's not, and we're not. I'm not saying don't play aggressively, I'm just saying stop trying to pull everything over deep square leg.
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Oh I'm not saying I disagree.

I do think it's thoroughly entertaining though, if these two can just stay in for a bit now.... :)

E: As you say, maybe not try and pull ever single short ball you see coming to you.
 
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I can't believe what I just saw. We were in polo position and we gave up the advantage with some of the dumbest cricket I've ever seen. I can forgive some of the younger players but Root has no excuses given his experiance and talent (not to mention being an ex captain).
 
Undone by Hubris.

One strategy for all situations is no strategy at, the aussies must have been p*****g themselves, on the rack, Lyons off the field and likely done for the rest of the game (if not longer), and England play right into their hands falling for the oldest trick in the book. Clowns.

Moronic test cricket.

Here's what I posted after Root got away with that no ball.

"England need to be careful they're not 5 down at close of play. Time to consolidate and set tommorow up."
 
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