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Very poor, think we need a change of captain and coach
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Buttler is just useless.
Nobody believes me but Eoin Morgan left just before it all went to poo. So either he knew what was coming or he really was the difference.
Nobody believes me but Eoin Morgan left just before it all went to poo. So either he knew what was coming or he really was the difference.
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Thing is there are natural captains who could play like Vince at Hampshire (not my team but seeing him live he was very good), he will score as many’s runs of Barstow but game manage much better
Morgan was driven at a team level, Butler is driven at a personal level. He seems too soft on others, and probably too hard on himself. If you can free his mind he will be a better player, captaincy seems to weigh heavy. Livingstone seems a natural leader, but his performances over the last year means he is under pressure for his place.
Getting a team ethos is hard, and the old idea of giving captaincy to best player is misguided.
And he can't just blame Butler - having a 4 match warmup series in England is madness when conditions in WI and USA are so different. But money talks so they had pointless warm ups.
Getting a team ethos is hard, and the old idea of giving captaincy to best player is misguided.
And he can't just blame Butler - having a 4 match warmup series in England is madness when conditions in WI and USA are so different. But money talks so they had pointless warm ups.
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What muppet decided to put Jordan in the team????
I am not defending Butler's captaincy - he does not have good game management or the ability to raise the team. Selection of the playing 11 is usually done by either captain and/or coach depending on setup. Squad is usually done by selectors and coach. No idea how England do it currently. Jordan has been effective in the past and on the slower wickets should suit him, but England do no seem to have a plan. Australia had set plans for every bowler and how to match each batsman.
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It's ok we're doing really well against the mighty Oman.
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Looks like we're gonna get knocked out with two rain-affected matches. That IS unlucky.
Bloody stupid getting knocked out because of weather. Brutally unfair.
Given England are the defending champions as well, what a terrible tournament. If this happened to a country like India, where this sport gets most of its money, there would be complete outrage.
Going back through t20 and odi world cups, this tournament will have the highest proportion of no results.
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Scotland ended up being the unlucky ones. They were probably just ahead against England. But glad South Africa get to face the weaker team in the Super Eights
.Just kidding, South Africa have been utterly terrible, but somehow won all 4 matches. Can't see how they can beat either WI or England, and USA is probably going to be a tough match.
To fit in with IPL, and England and Australia summer tests windows.
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This format just doesn't work. The best teams can get eliminated too easily.
Australia are clearly a better team than England yet because we battered the minnows by lots, we go sailing through and they could be knocked out if Afghanistan beat Bangladesh.
Australia are clearly a better team than England yet because we battered the minnows by lots, we go sailing through and they could be knocked out if Afghanistan beat Bangladesh.
Is it possible to have a statement win against USA?!
Well Australia could just have beaten Afghanistan and they would be home and dry. Not sure if the Windies count as minnows either, but England also beat them convincingly.
Of course it's possible to have a statement win against the US. England could have just cruised to the target inside 19 overs, but instead knocked off the chase in less than 10 at over 12 runs/over. SA made a bit of a hash of it when they played the State.
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A win again the current USA cricket team is never a "statement win". They obviously couldn't cruise or they wouldn't have met the required run rate to qualify.
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If you are playing a significantly lower ranked opponent you have to win convincingly. Knocking the score off at 12runs/over without losing a wicket is pretty convincing.
No idea what India were playing though. they spend 19 overs chasing a score of 110 when they played the US.
No idea what India were playing though. they spend 19 overs chasing a score of 110 when they played the US.
Whilst the format and travel arrangements are silly, Australia are out because they lost to Afghanistan and India, not because the format or battering minnows. They have not played anywhere near their best so go home. Maxwell's wicket yesterday sums up their tournament.
South Africa might just have a chance to finally reach a final, though we need to catch better than we did against WI. Probably be more semi final hart ache though.
Hard to see past India atm, but it has been a weird tournament.