Cast-Iron, Cameron can always be relied upon to never change his mind.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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Cast-Iron, Cameron can always be relied upon to never change his mind.
The lizard people feed it to Rupert Murdoch?
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Agreed doesn't she ultimately want to be independent of England anyway?
She is far more likely to get another referendum for Scotland if we leave, a second own goal.
Because politicians are more important than business leaders, obvious.
Most traditional labour supporters are at least sympathetic to Leave's arguments, but labour lost touch with them long ago really.
A lot of prominent labour politicians have a history of being anti-EU *cough* Corbyn *cough*, as well as a lot of other major left wing figures such as Paul Mason and Owen Jones.
I'm convinced that Corbyn really wants the UK to leave, and was forced into supporting remain by the new labour wing of his party to try to take advantage of the Tory infighting. If labour politicians weren't encouraged to tow the party line on the referendum, there would be a lot more of them supporting leave.
I saw criticisms of Corbyn's speeches saying he spent far too long talking about the negatives of the EU...
Most labour voters at least feel some of this, which is why so many are confused, apathetic, or voting leave.
It seems like Corbyn has been put into a straitjacket in all honesty. I think Alan Johnson has his right hand up his bum or something. When Corbyn was voted in as leader, I must say I respected his straight talking despite not agreeing with everything he was saying.
Extremely unlikely but it'd be amazing if he had a pang of conscience and came out for Brexit at the last minute. His colleagues already have the knives out anyway.
I think Corbyn is saying exactly what he believes. It matches with what I've seen him say about the EU during his election campaign: he isn't a whole hearted supporter of the EU, he thinks it has a lot of issues, but - on balance - he thinks we're better off in.
And, let's face it, Corbyn's not exactly a man prone to not saying what he believes, is he?
To the people wondering why time people are so much more likely to view remain, this gives a good indication why.
http://www.youngindependence.org.uk/pupils-and-politics/
I remember when I was in school a decade ago there were teachers who encouraged balance, and teachers who encouraged left wing views. We had one debate on the EU, it was in a sixth form lesson and immediately followed a EU made video on the benefits of Europe... naturally, I had a hard time convincing people that leaving was a good idea.
I didn't see him say anything about wanting to stay in the EU during his leadership campaign? I'd be very interested if you have a link to hand.
http://www.youngindependence.org.uk/pupils-and-politics/
I remember when I was in school a decade ago there were teachers who encouraged balance, and teachers who encouraged left wing views. We had one debate on the EU, it was in a sixth form lesson and immediately followed a EU made video on the benefits of Europe... naturally, I had a hard time convincing people that leaving was a good idea.
I didn't see him say anything about wanting to stay in the EU during his leadership campaign? I'd be very interested if you have a link to hand.
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Interestingly I had a Govt and Politics lecturer that used to hate me.
I remember one particular session she was in essence trying to turn the group away from Labour and used the line that (at the time) the two biggest parties have £13m of debt and labour have £6m of that debt so how could they run a country? Emphasis on Labour, the group was immediately taken in with comments and a few remarks about it being bad. I put her straight by saying but that means the Conservatives were £7m then so can hardly make a comment. The whole room turned from looking at me to the lecturer waiting for her response which she was unable to give.
Hated that session. I can still remember a girl in there who was what would be a full on SJW today. She had the stupidest ideas eg we should stop milking cows because it stresses then out and that we should not ever send women to prison
Suffice to say given my questioning stance I failed G&P lol
You're pretty good at strawmanning, I'll give you that.
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Yes, it's very optimistic to assume that either; any drop in trade to the EU would be made up for by demand for those same products in the rest of the world, or that there is surplus capacity to produce products that could be sold to the rest of the world to make for any drop in sales to the EU.
I think that it is obvious to all that the reasons for the prominent EU and USA figures nay saying Britains exit are not out of feelings for the future of the UK but are based on their own economic issues.
Britain as a nett contributor will mean that both France and Germany will pay substantially more and the benefits accrued by the other EU countries (states) will be less.
The USA Fed. has delayed a rise in interest rates amid fears that a UK exit will damage the USA economy.
So crocodile tears all around Obama, Merkel, Clinton, Hollande et al. I still think that the UK will do very well in whichever circumstance. I do believe that a UK exit from the EU makes good economic sense for the UK.
Britain as a nett contributor will mean that both France and Germany will pay substantially more and the benefits accrued by the other EU countries (states) will be less.
The USA Fed. has delayed a rise in interest rates amid fears that a UK exit will damage the USA economy.
So crocodile tears all around Obama, Merkel, Clinton, Hollande et al. I still think that the UK will do very well in whichever circumstance. I do believe that a UK exit from the EU makes good economic sense for the UK.
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The politician who has changed sides is not on the front page of the BBC anymore, yet the JCB comments are.
Stop being so paranoid.
Rather than try to ridicule why not research? You may just learn something
That sounds quite boring. I'll pass.
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