Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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How do you people feel the latest mass murdering spree in Orlando, the most deadly mass shooting in US history, will affect the EU referendum? It is looking more and more likely to be the work of an extremist with probable leanings to well discussed ideology. Without a shadow of a doubt, if that's the case, it will boost Donald Trump's ratings, but how will the UK react? Another boost to Brexit, even if many here will say the link to immigration is tenuous?

I don't think the link to immigration is tenuous, if you let in millions of people from ISIS ridden areas you're going to have terrorist attacks.
 
These are the four possible 'OUT' outcome. Not made up, by a leading EU and competition lawyer. He developed the guide as an at-a-glance reference for business people in response to the lack of objective and factual analysis available to the public.

He says - “Which ever way people decide to vote on 23 June, they need to be able to easily understand the implications of their decision. I have been struck by how overly complicated and negative the majority of the press coverage has been about this crucial vote and by creating a straight forward guide I hope that businesses will be able to chart the flow of the legal processes we would have to enter into.

“It is important to recognise in three of the four scenarios the UK would still be subject to EU law and free movement of people, but crucially would no longer have any input into the formation of new EU laws.

“It is also worth noting that the negotiations to leave the EU would take a minimum of two years from the point the Article 50 notice is served, but any new arrangement could take at least ten years to conclude. If we stay in the EU, there would be no legal changes to the current arrangement.

“No matter which outcome people favour, it is important that everyone places their vote on 23 June.”


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http://www.squareonelaw.com/announcements/eu-referendum-know-the-facts/
 
The references are there for you to check. Dismissing a referenced report based on the source is lazy.

Sorry but the LSE, above all academic institutions, are completely non-credible when it comes to studies on immigration. Their predictions are always way out.
 
Everybody knows it doesn't matter how much we hear about red lines and veto's we will adopt the Euro, we will join Schengen,Turkey and others will join the EU, we will have an EU army, tax and welfare system and eventually a single Govt.

Some will come quicker than others but anybody who thinks all these things will happen and we'll just be able to opt out are barmy.

Why won't we have an opt out? We turned down the euro, how's is that suddenly going to change?
 
These are the four possible 'OUT' outcome. Not made up, by a leading EU and competition lawyer. He developed the guide as an at-a-glance reference for business people in response to the lack of objective and factual analysis available to the public.

He says - “Which ever way people decide to vote on 23 June, they need to be able to easily understand the implications of their decision. I have been struck by how overly complicated and negative the majority of the press coverage has been about this crucial vote and by creating a straight forward guide I hope that businesses will be able to chart the flow of the legal processes we would have to enter into.

“It is important to recognise in three of the four scenarios the UK would still be subject to EU law and free movement of people, but crucially would no longer have any input into the formation of new EU laws.

“It is also worth noting that the negotiations to leave the EU would take a minimum of two years from the point the Article 50 notice is served, but any new arrangement could take at least ten years to conclude. If we stay in the EU, there would be no legal changes to the current arrangement.

“No matter which outcome people favour, it is important that everyone places their vote on 23 June.”


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http://www.squareonelaw.com/announcements/eu-referendum-know-the-facts/

Wherea the Korean option?
 
What if the govenrment of the time just doesnt want to opt out?

But we're going through this entire exercise to restore ARE SOVEREIGNTY.

Are you suggesting that the UK government might not have the interests of the average UK worker at the top of their agenda?
 
Had no idea Florida was an ISIS hotbed now. Scary stuff.

Not Florida, the question asked was how do people feel the latest mass murdering spree in Orlando will affect the EU referendum, it's Europe that is letting in millions of immigrants from ISIS ridden areas.
 
I've already answered that.

It's only an event relevant to EU migration if you're already strongly in favour of Brexit anyway.
 
Not Florida, the question asked was how do people feel the latest mass murdering spree in Orlando will affect the EU referendum, it's Europe that is letting in millions of immigrants from ISIS ridden areas.

You can't even get the basic facts right :D

They aren't immigrants, they are refugees (a distinct difference)

We aren't letting in millions, we are dealing with the hundreds of thousands turning up, the millions are still being dealt with by other countries

The vast majority of the people are running away from ISIS (and the Taliban, Syrian Military etc) and if/when some terrorists come over too, it's not they wouldn't be able to anyway, even without the refugee crisis.

So in answer to Chris, I don't think the US shootings will have any effect on the EU referendum, but I guess some idiots might try and make a connection
 
These are the four possible 'OUT' outcome. Not made up, by a leading EU and competition lawyer. He developed the guide as an at-a-glance reference for business people in response to the lack of objective and factual analysis available to the public.

He says - “Which ever way people decide to vote on 23 June, they need to be able to easily understand the implications of their decision. I have been struck by how overly complicated and negative the majority of the press coverage has been about this crucial vote and by creating a straight forward guide I hope that businesses will be able to chart the flow of the legal processes we would have to enter into.

“It is important to recognise in three of the four scenarios the UK would still be subject to EU law and free movement of people, but crucially would no longer have any input into the formation of new EU laws.

“It is also worth noting that the negotiations to leave the EU would take a minimum of two years from the point the Article 50 notice is served, but any new arrangement could take at least ten years to conclude. If we stay in the EU, there would be no legal changes to the current arrangement.

“No matter which outcome people favour, it is important that everyone places their vote on 23 June.”


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This highlights the biggest issue I have with the leave campaign. No-one has a clue which option would be pursued. As it is, it seems there could be a sufficiently large number of people voting on the basis of "anything but the current arrangement" for this not to matter, but a leave campaign based on a single plan of "this is what's wrong with the current deal, here's exactly what we're going to do come brexit" would have been so much more credible.

I have a feeling brexit may edge it, but then we end up with one of the "EU lite" options which still involves us implementing most of the rules, having free movement, contributing to the budget but having no say over any of the rules. Especially likely considering the make up of brexit vs. remain in parliament. I'm not sure that's really what anyone wants?
 
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I have a feeling brexit may edge it, but then we end up with one of the "EU lite" options which still involves us implementing most of the rules, having free movement, contributing to the budget but having no say over any of the rules. Especially likely considering the make up of brexit vs. remain in parliament. I'm not sure that's really what anyone wants?

Which is fundamentally worse than what we have now.
 
This highlights the biggest issue I have with the leave campaign. No-one has a clue which option would be pursued. As it is, it seems there could be a sufficiently large number of people voting on the basis of "anything but the current arrangement" for this not to matter, but a leave campaign based on a single plan of "this is what's wrong with the current deal, here's exactly what we're going to do come brexit" would have been so much more credible.

I have a feeling brexit may edge it, but then we end up with one of the "EU lite" options which still involves us implementing most of the rules, having free movement, contributing to the budget but having no say over any of the rules. Especially likely considering the make up of brexit vs. remain in parliament. I'm not sure that's really what anyone wants?

There are people posting in this thread who genuinely believe we will vote to leave, turn around to Europe and say "lol see you later, we'll keep our money, ignore your rules, stop people coming here. Also we'll just keep trade as-is, yeah?" and receive the answer of "Sure lads go for it, after all you are the United Kingdom and had an empire once and two world wars and one world cup and all that".

Anybody who attempts to say that maybe that won't happen is accused of not being able to predict the future and scaremongering. I mean you don't know for sure about anything that is going to happen in the future, but when your colleagues say "see you tomorrow" you don't jump down their throats about maybe they won't since they aren't time travellers. People have a pretty decent idea about what a non-EU member with a free trade agreement looks like because it exists right now.
 
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