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If we vote in I shiver at the thought of what Britain will look like in the not too distant future.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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He is one of thousands of qualified voices signing from the same hymn sheet, I'm not sure his thoughts have added anything significant to the likely outcome that many predict would happen should we leave.
That was one of the finest pieces of demagoguery I've ever seen. Excellent oratory.
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Hugs and hashtags will carry us through.
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I think the consensus from economists is that a leave vote will have a negative effect on GDP in the short to medium terms, but I highly doubt any effects would be anywhere near those figures - they are astronomical.
That nice - but this is the same administration that cant get its books signed off because there's money missing all over the place.
Britain probably won't exist - I'll be living in UKJ28 of the European Union.
I have the same sentiment for if the out vote wins. Tories gonna tory.
If the British public vote for it what's the problem?
If they don't want it they'll vote another party in
Lol @ Remainers love for democracy
Ugh why won't this myth die? See https://fullfact.org/europe/intelligence-squared-eu-debate-factchecked/ reproduced below:
EU budget audits
“The auditors haven’t been able to sign accounts for the past 14-odd years”—Audience member
“That’s simply not true. The accounts have been signed off for the last several... It’s simply not true to say they haven’t been signed off.”—Nick Clegg
“That’s simply not true. The accounts have been signed off for the last several... It’s simply not true to say they haven’t been signed off.”—Nick Clegg
The European Court of Auditors—which checks the EU’s accounts—actually gives two different opinions on them each year: whether they’re accurate and reliable, and whether there’s evidence that money is being received or paid in error.
The Court regularly ‘signs off’ the reliability of the accounts, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last eight years. But it has found significant errors in how the money is paid out consistently since it began giving opinions in 1995.
So the numbers accurately reflect what actually happened, it’s just that some of it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
The Court said the EU’s accounts in 2014: “present a true and fair view of the EU’s financial results for the year … We were therefore able to give a clean opinion on the reliability of the accounts (‘signed off’)”
But it did find that 4.4% of EU spending was subject to error; just under £5 billion. It says this shouldn’t be confused with ‘fraud’ or ‘wasted money’ and it does recover some of the money. The Court explains:
“Our estimate of the level of error is not a measure of fraud, inefficiency or waste. It is an estimate of the money that should not have been paid out because it was not used in accordance with the applicable rules and regulations.”
"OLAF is notified of some 12,000 cases of possible fraud every year, and says that it adopts a “zero tolerance” policy towards corruption and fraud in EU institutions. In reality, OLAF must be somewhat more tolerant than “zero” as it investigates only some 200 cases per year – that is to say 98% of reported cases go uninvestigated."
"This is the most likely explanation of the fact that, since 1999, OLAF has sent only 335 people to jail and recovered only 1.1 Billion Euros of EU money – less than one-thousandth of the amount unaccounted for"
http://www.richardmilton.net/have-the-eu-accounts-been-signed-off-or-not/
Al Capone would be proud of them.
So much for intelligent arguments. I guess we're just going to get insults and mud slinging in the next two days. Roll on Thursday when it all stops.
I wondered who would be the first to say something insulting just because a famous person sided with Remain and what pathetic comment it would be, shall I say it's surprised me how pathetic the comment is but not who said it
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"in 2015, the amount not signed off by the Court of Auditors was “only” 4.7% of the budget. The problem is that 4.7% of the budget is 6.97 BILLION Euros – enough to build 70 major hospitals or 150 large secondary schools."
How can anyone want to stay in a corrupt EU?
"in 2015, the amount not signed off by the Court of Auditors was “only” 4.7% of the budget. The problem is that 4.7% of the budget is 6.97 BILLION Euros – enough to build 70 major hospitals or 150 large secondary schools."
How can anyone want to stay in a corrupt EU?
If the British public vote for it what's the problem?
If they don't want it they'll vote another party in
Lol @ Remainers love for democracy
The next GE isn't until 2020, what exactly have the British public voted for?
That's an absolute scandal! Could you imagine if a UK Local Authority (which we now know are employ more staff than the EU) had a similar error rate with its spending? It'd almost certainly mean the CEO of that authority resigning, maybe even the government taking control of that council like they did in Tower Hamlets.
That's almost £1 in every £20 is being spent incorrectly! Remind me again why we want to be part of such an incompetent legislature?
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