Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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That nice - but this is the same administration that cant get its books signed off because there's money missing all over the place.

That old lie. It's not true, the EU auditors have given the budget a clean bill of health since 2007. What they have found is some "material error" but at no higher a level than national governments find which is unsurprising since it's down to the national governments to administer these parts of the spending and it's they, not the EU, that has failed to properly oversee the spending.
 
Didn'T you hear? We're going to lift and move the UK to the US...
Remain have regularly high jacked rhetoric with exaggeration that could only be seen as the exact same as lying on an industrial scale in my view.

We'll be leaving Europe and our allies ... No, we'll still be part of the five eyes, Nato, willing to assist allies and in need of trade and other things.

We'll become little englander isolationists ... No, the UK wouldn't even succeed that way and likes migration, our politicians have only ever been eager to ignore public view on this anyway.

We're using the politics of fear and division ... No, there is no division in merely leaving what is supposed to be a union you are allowed to join or leave freely anyway and the only fear and division is coming from worries of the EU tearing apart our democracy so people are afraid they have no control and divided as they are being falsely accused of being racist for wanting control.

Posters of factual events are racist ... No, don't even need to explain that one other than to point out it's clear they started this line of thinking as soon as they mentioned they had to attack hatred and division after jo cox's death. Using a dead MP to promote there new PR move was certainly shady enough.

They even tried to early on high jack the word europe to apply it to the union. Oh well, I hope it's a nice trip to Amrica.
 
They who? The government, you think they are going to repeal it?

They don't need to repeal it. I imagine they'll just claim that the next treaty doesn't transfer any sovereignty to the EU and therefore a referendum isn't necessary. A few years later when it's clear it has transferred sovereignty it's too late. Make no mistake, TPTB in Europe aren't going to tolerate ordinary people deciding if their treaties become enacted.
 
Net EU migration has been below that figure relatively recently. For example, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. Then before that from 1991 to 2005. Then we can choose to control migration from outside the EU. So getting it below 100 000 isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Getting net migration below 100,000 would do huge damage to our country. Why? Because over half of non-EU migration is students. Getting below 100,000 would only be possible if we decimated the number of students coming over and pouring money into our universities and the economies of university towns. It's a stupid target set without any sensible consideration of what it means.
 
That's an absolute scandal! Could you imagine if a UK Local Authority (which we now know are employ more staff than the EU) had a similar error rate with its spending?

They do. The error rates in EU spending are not higher than the rates in UK spending.

That's almost £1 in every £20 is being spent incorrectly! Remind me again why we want to be part of such an incompetent legislature?

"Material error" doesn't even mean it was spent incorrectly, it means there was some problem with some part of the oversight, allocation or spending.
 
No, 30% of UKIP supporters think the government is working with the security services to stop Brexit, but if you get to the main text of the article it then says,

Oh come on Moses, that's completely unreasonable to expect him to actually read the article before commenting on it....:D
 
They do. The error rates in EU spending are not higher than the rates in UK spending.



"Material error" doesn't even mean it was spent incorrectly, it means there was some problem with some part of the oversight, allocation or spending.

I know you think you're some sort of authority on all things EU with your links to LSE studies, but any chance of providing some information to back up your claim?
 
Getting net migration below 100,000 would do huge damage to our country. Why? Because over half of non-EU migration is students. Getting below 100,000 would only be possible if we decimated the number of students coming over and pouring money into our universities and the economies of university towns. It's a stupid target set without any sensible consideration of what it means.


Citation needed.
 
Citation needed.

My apologies, it's 47% for study in the most recent figures, just under 50%. That's still over 88,000. There's no way we'd be able to reduce non-study immigration to 12,000 or less without enormous damage to our economy and even further restricting the family rights of British citizens (already disgustingly slashed by Thereas May's decision to make it so British citizens have less right to reside with their spouse in the UK that people from other EU countries).
 
My apologies, it's 47% for study in the most recent figures, just under 50%. That's still over 88,000. There's no way we'd be able to reduce non-study immigration to 12,000 or less without enormous damage to our economy and even further restricting the family rights of British citizens (already disgustingly slashed by Thereas May's decision to make it so British citizens have less right to reside with their spouse in the UK that people from other EU countries).

Surely the net figure for students is quite low? We get a huge number arriving, buy they leave after 3-5 years.
 
My apologies, it's 47% for study in the most recent figures, just under 50%. That's still over 88,000. There's no way we'd be able to reduce non-study immigration to 12,000 or less without enormous damage to our economy and even further restricting the family rights of British citizens (already disgustingly slashed by Thereas May's decision to make it so British citizens have less right to reside with their spouse in the UK that people from other EU countries).

Why would we want to stop the students coming here to study as long as they are paying their own way, not getting UK student loans and then sodding off without paying them back?
 
So, I have just searched this thread for "Bilderberg", and got 2 posts.

If this is how little "exposure" they are getting during all this then wow. They really will do a number on us once this puppet show has finished.
 
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