Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[scorza]

Umm, not really?

A politician saying a soundbite to appeal to the populist topic of time, without looking into the practicalities or even meaning it, colour me surprised!

In that case it makes you wonder why so many people don't believe the likes of Mr Jack when they tell them that uncontrolled immigration is a wonderful thing and a huge benefit to our country.

Imagine the benefits to our country if we allowed these poor #refugees to enjoy our country. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rries-UK-police-used-tear-gas-force-back.html

 

[Christmas themed thank]

I think what we've also not mentioned is the case of the nervous voter. I think an awful lot of people will see remain as the safe choice and so a lot of people that may be thinking of voting leave now will actually vote remain.

 

[do_ron_ron]

I wondered when this odious parasite would pipe up!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Brexit-bigger-disruptive-Black-Wednesday.html

^^^^^^You are voting to support him if you vote in!

As with the ERM Soros will be in the lead to bet against the pound post Brexit. He made a £Billion last time and he reckons he will do better this time. He will take advantage of the situation either way.

 

[Freakbro]

That's the problem. The Remain camp think they are voting to keep things the same; that isn't what is going to happen. We will get swept along on a wave of ever closer integration and people need to understand that if they are thinking of voting to remain.

Sweeping generalisation much?

I'm certainly not and am looking forward to further integration, a federal state and an EU army

 

[deuse]

Umm, not really?

A politician saying a soundbite to appeal to the populist topic of time, without looking into the practicalities or even meaning it, colour me surprised!

It wasn't a "sound bite" it was in the tory manifesto.

 

[Freakbro]

In that case it makes you wonder why so many people don't believe the likes of Mr Jack when they tell them that uncontrolled immigration is a wonderful thing and a huge benefit to our country.

But in that case there does seem to be empirical evidence to back up that claim.

So to attack the argument you need to disprove the data

Imagine the benefits to our country if we allowed these poor #refugees to enjoy our country. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...orce-back.html

And not just post empotive crap like that

It's not the same as a baseless statement by a politician, or a Leave supporter on here (which you must admit a lot of the 'I know X,Y,Z will happen' are completely unfounded)

 

[Freakbro]

It wasn't a "sound bite" it was in the tory manifesto.

The definition of a baseless soundbite?

 

[Uther]

Have you spoken to all eligible members of the electorate then? Or is this just another baseless statement?

I think people will bottle it once at the polling booth, and vote for what they think, wrongly, is the status quo.
Then they will question themselves the second they leave the polling station, and come to regret their decision over the coming weeks, months, and years.
For people saying 'we can always have another referendum!' there's not a ****ing chance the government or EU will ever risk this happening again...

 

[deuse]

The definition of a baseless soundbite?

"Shakes head"...oh dear

 

[Mr Jack]

Makes you wonder why Cameron promised to cut immigration to the tens of thousands if it's such a good thing

I don't know. I didn't vote for him and I'm not going to defend his policies.

surely he should be opening the flood gates to get net immigration to one million upwards.

EU migration is uncontrolled and it's working very well. A big net benefit to our exchequer, a huge benefit to our economy.

 

[Mr Jack]

You're not making any sense, the student migration numbers thing is a red herring because the vast majority of students form part of the group that don't stay and therefore are not part of the net migration figure...

They're included in net migration figures.

 

[Judgeneo]

I said why. Because we can't achieve it without decimating student numbers and students bring lots of money into our country.

I mean immigration is also a huge benefit to our country in general, and cutting it off would do other damage but students are the obvious one.

I'd agree with you if they had health insurance.
In my opinion anyone from anywhere coming here should have Health Insurance for min of 5 years.

You have to pay an NHS premium for every year you come here now.

The partner visa for my GF is costing around £2k all in, just in government fees.

 

[deuse]

EU migration is uncontrolled and it's working very well. A big net benefit to our exchequer, a huge benefit to our economy.

And a huge drain on the NHS. Even Cameron is now saying the same as UKIP.

 

[scorza]

But in that case there does seem to be empirical evidence to back up that claim.

So to attack the argument you need to disprove the data

It's not the same as a baseless statement by a politician, or a Leave supporter on here (which you must admit a lot of the 'I know X,Y,Z will happen' are completely unfounded)

No there hasn't. I'm guessing you're referring to the flawed LSE study Mr Jack keeps referring to but that just looked at the effect on GDP from an influx of young, healthy migrants of working age. Surprise surprise they made a net contribution to the economy. That isn't empirical evidence by any stretch of the definition.

 

[deuse]

You have to pay an NHS premium for every year you come here now.

The partner visa for my GF is costing around £2k all in, just in government fees.

How much for your Health insurance? And 2K in fees is cheap.

 

[Freakbro]

"Shakes head"...oh dear

So what are you trying to say about manifestos?

Remind me again how Farage described the 2010 UKIP manifesto if they are such an important, well though out document we should placea lot of faith in?

Oh yea...

I didn't read it. It was drivel. It was 486 pages of drivel...It was a nonsense

 

[Psypher5]

further integration, a federal state and an EU army

Well, it'll be interesting to see it happen. Scary, but interesting.

 

[Hagar]

53% leave 47% remain. +/- 3%

My best guesstimate.

 

[deuse]

So what are you trying to say about manifestos?

We was talking about the Tory manifesto and sound bites.
Come to think of it all your posts are "sound bites"

 

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