Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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[TW]Fox;29568456 said:
So a relaxing of our current immigration policy? Interesting.
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not really, maybe slightly for the rest of the world but EU immigration currently has no controls

in fact relaxing it in general and applying it to everyone equally regardless of their non-British nationality wouldn't be a bad move

we're too tight in areas like letting people stay on and look for work after graduating from UK degree courses... all as part of this drive towards reducing overall net immigration which is currently rather futile given our open door to the whole EU. We've got non EU students contributing large fees to our universities and then a lot of them get sent packing when previously they'd have a year to get themselves a well paid job... it used to be self filtering... people who weren't much use to us didn't get a well paid job and were out after that time period and others we kept.
 
billysielu said:
We need to undo this one first.

Then prevent it ever happening again.
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So in your view, history tells you that a decision about an important matter was made in a particular way and the outcome was bad. Therefore the obvious answer is to do exactly the same again to fix it?
 
sityeuropa said:
Anyone think Merkel will make some sort of last offer announcement near the date?
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nope, but it is certainly possible that in the event of an out vote there would be some noise made either publicly or privately re: further concessions - however the idea of having a second referendum is dubious
 
billysielu said:
Undoing a previous mistake is not the same as making a new mistake.
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It is if you go about doing it the same way.

"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

You're suggesting that making a decision over EU membership in exactly the same way that resulted in this "mistake" will make things somehow better?

Whether you are 'leave' or 'remain' is irrelevant to the point I'm making.

Making a decision on something like this should not be left to the general public. The general public don't know their **** from their elbow and should not be entrusted with the responsibility of a decision that will impact multiple generations based on stupid propaganda from both sides.

I said the same thing about people protesting fracking - how many know the ins and outs of the process enough to make a quantifiable and reasonable assessment? Very few.
 
frankly if we stay in then we should go for a USE in the end... most of the rest of the block is edging that way anyway and in a few decades it could end up as a much smaller club in terms of states with one big Eurozone/EU superstate appointing most of the MEPs and commissioners plus the UK and one or two others(Denmark, Sweden perhaps) being the much more junior members outvoted on most things and just reliant on our veto to not get completely ****ed.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
EU referendum: Boris Johnson and Michael Gove pledge tough new Australian-style points-based immigration system after Brexit
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What I find interesting about this is the extent to which Boris is nakedly campaigning for a different government after the vote. Boris is not PM, not leader of the Tories, not even in a proper cabinet position, yet he is blithely making promises about what the post-Brexit setup will be.

Hmm, I wonder what odds I can get on Cameron not lasting out the year?
 
Government loses regardless of the outcome, we vote out and they lose wholesale, but voting in, means UKIP has gained 50% of the countries angry vote.

Nigel need do literally nothing and he wins.
 
Out, but not for any reasoned argument other than to see what happens. :D

I'd be very surprised if the end results were out mind. The arguments for and against are very blurred and people don't like change/uncertainty so i can only see the quiet majority voting "in"
 
I'm voting out. The EU is a failed experiment, and it's only getting worse. Countries like Germany and the UK have brain-drained Eastern European countries which have had their standard of living lowered by the introduction of the Euro. Food now costs the same as in wealthier countries, but they still get paid very low wages. The wealthy love it since it provides them with so much cheap labour.

Immigration from war-torn countries is not going to stop and it's going to result in home-grown terror for decades to come.
 
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