Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[kitkat2015]

Here's an idea for a poll.

British people wanting out of the E.U. versus British people disapproving of Scottish Independence.

Let's see what the percentage is on hypocrites.

I want out of eu & scotland can go too, sooner the better.

 

[Mr Jack]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1325398/Euro-court-outlaws-criticism-of-EU.html

and I'm voting leave

Because of a court case from 2001?

 

[Harlequin]

Because of a court case from 2001?

no because of the implications , read around the laws they have enacted which erode our rights we already have in the uk.

the points based immigration system is one I have advocated for the longest of time - heck , even a work colleague who moved from Romania in 2002 says since the free movement happened for his countrymen , whilst he himself works hard as does his wife , the second wave are lazy.

 

[Mr Jack]

no because of the implications , read around the laws they have enacted which erode our rights we already have in the uk.

What implications? This happened 15 years ago. Where is the "outlawing of criticism" the article hysterically rants about? Oh right, there hasn't been any. Why? Because the whole article is rubbish.

(Here is a more factual description of the courtcase with a link to the actual judgement)

 

[Skillmister]

If an immigrant gets a job in the UK they will be a net benefit to the country,

Is that a fact?

 

[Tunney]

So those in favour of a point-based immigration system are happy for us to be excluded from the EEA?

 

[toshj]

Although I'm not quite as convinced when I decided IN a few months ago, I'm still opting to remain. I simply think the global economy is currently too turbulent and unpredictable for the UK to be messing about with an exit from the EU. Whilst I don't particularly favour the structure or personnel within the EU, I simply think being OUT in the current climate is begging for things to start falling apart. I see it as a cutting off the nose to spite the face move if we were to leave.

 

[Randomface74]

So those in favour of a point-based immigration system are happy for us to be excluded from the EEA?

Yes, forget the EEA - it comes with free movement, which is a big reason we're leaving the EU.

 

[thep02]

A couple of links my son sent me not sure if they've been posted before.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexit-referendum-campaigns-politicians

http://www.leftleave.org/seven-more-myths-about-the-eu

 

[RaohNS]

Cab someone do a graph for how many time the same arguments have been repeated in this thread vs how much new stuff there is?

 

[VoG]

I still think something which has an impact that reaches through multiple generations should not be decided like this.

The only reason this is happening is because we elected a spineless political pygmy as prime minister.

 

[bayo000]

Is that a fact?

I can see why even the low paid should be net contributors. Most of them come here in their most productive age so they actually have small impact on NHS, they didn't require education here in their childhood and most of them will leave before they retire so again no impact on NHS in their old age. So basically other than possibly claiming tax credit and pension later on they don't really get much back from their NI and taxes.
Obviously those with children and/ or health problem will have bigger "impact" on public money.

 

[platypus]

This is exactly what me and many other UKIP voters have wanted for a long time!

How can Boris and Gove pledge something over which they'll have no control?

 

[SciNeT]

There's nothing wrong with immigration, but let's take advantage of our desirability and select the best and brightest. We’re choosers, yet have the immigration policy of beggers.

This, I'm all for controlled immigration, but want immigration to serve the interests of my country, that means we need to do it without bringing in hordes of fighting age males with no employable skills and a culture of rape, misogyny, violence and hatred of Western values, we don't want to turn into Sweden.

 

[RaohNS]

A couple of links my son sent me not sure if they've been posted before.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexit-referendum-campaigns-politicians

http://www.leftleave.org/seven-more-myths-about-the-eu

OMG the Franky Boyle one

 

[V F]

The only reason this is happening is because we elected a spineless political pygmy as prime minister.

Heh! First time I've read anything like that on here.

You'll be watching him tomorrow on Sky News?

 

[StriderX]

2001 ECJ Ruling

...
4 By letter of 18 August 1995, Mr Connolly applied to be reinstated in the
Commission service at the end of his leave on personal grounds. The
Commission, by decision of 27 September 1995, granted that request and
reinstated him in his post with effect from 4 October 1995.
5 Whilst on leave on personal grounds, Mr Connolly published a book entitled
The Rotten Heart of Europe — The Dirty War for Europe's Money without
requesting prior permission.
...
Whereas by his conduct Mr Connolly has seriously prejudiced the interests of
the Communities and has damaged the image and reputation of the
institution;
Whereas Mr Connolly has admitted receiving royalties paid to him by his
publishers as consideration for the publication of his book;
Whereas Mr Connolly's overall conduct has reflected on his position as an
official, given that an official is required to conduct himself solely with the
interests of the Commission in mind;

He was told not to publish certain inflammatory (regardless of whether they were true or not) remarks about the EU monetary system, as an official in office to the EU... i don't see how he could possibly imagine a situation where he'd win this, he broke a regulation regardless of intent.

Its much the same as Snowden, just much more boring and much less insightful.

 

[platypus]

OMG the Franky Boyle one

I don't normally like Frankie Boyle, but that description of Osbourne is brilliant:

The most obvious beneficiary of a Remain vote will be George Osborne, a man who exudes all the warmth of Scott of the Antarctic’s last dump, who made detailed claims about what the British economy would be like in 2030, despite not being able to predict the recession a week after it happened. It was like someone telling you they can predict what the weather will be like on any given day in 14 years time, while standing in the rain without an umbrella. If I try to picture Osborne as a child, for some reason all I see is a toddler so desperate not to share an icelolly that he’s suffocating his conjoined twin with the hat from his sailor suit, then passing it off as a novelty rucksack till it shrivels up and drops off. Of course, I’m joking. He throttled his twin in the womb with its own umbilical cord as a difficult but necessary measure to ensure he would hit his own arbitrary milk consumption targets. And yet he’s not all bad: Osborne is arguably the number one homicide target in the country, yet he can’t stop himself pulling on hi-vis jackets. Possibly the desperate actions of some subconscious crumb of his near-extinguished decency.

 

[G-MAN2004]

Still 100% leave. Madness to remain.

 

[bam0]

Remain, because the only sane leave argument is the sovereignty one, and I don't care in the slightest about that.