Yes half of it is spent on us on our behalf by the EU, but that doesn't mean we don't actually send 350m a week, we do.
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I posted earlier in the thread about this, the general consensus here is a preference for the UK to remain in. The potential for disruption the current level of trade between the two States is too great with an Exit.
Another unknown is the attitude of an future UK government with regard to its only land border with the EU. If the UK is happy to retain the common travel area, then I can't see any issues. However if immigration becomes a hot issue, I can see the border hardening. This will have political (or worse) consequences in the North.
Another unknown is the status of Irish nationals living in the UK and Vice versa in the event of an Exit.
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No, I don't mean "incorrect" as in, a poor course of action. I mean, incorrect. The claim that we send £350m a week to the EU is not true.
Whether you think it's worth it or not as a completely different question. We did discuss it earlier in this thread. I think when you worked it out using the actual figure, it amounted to a membership cost of 26p per day, per person. Personally I suspect that's a membership fee worth paying to remain a member of the EU with all the advantages and benefits that entails. You value it differently, that's fair enough.
Cool so at best its 248m at worst its 350m, but the point i made is still correct, why remain hate this number is due to the money we get back, however if we leave we never send it...
The issue is the word send, as we don't send it weekly i know this, the number is broken down to weekly for impact... its like showing the bill for a meal after each course not at the end of a meal, however it still costs the same
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I did actually and the Guardian said that it was gross 350m a week, as do a lot of other websites.
No, no we don 't. We have covered this over and over again. At no point does the UK send £350m to the EU. The rebate is applied before we pay.
Thanks. That's interesting, and potentially a little worrying, personally.
If I buy a car for £3000 paying £500 a month but after I paid off the car I get £1000 back, how much have I paid for the car?
This has been done to death already. I'm sorry, but you're 100% wrong on that specific point.
edit: looks like I'm a bit late to the party here
your right and wrong, if we leave we don't get a rebate and we don't send anything, net result we have 248-350m when broken down into weekly chunks, its basic maths
The eu money we get back gets spent on stuff they choose to spend it on like art gallerys and art projects in rich areas for rich people.
"Ministers say that £38.1 million awarded through the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) has been misspent or is unaccounted for, while a further £133.9 million may also have to be written off." tip of the iceberg
"Ministers say that £38.1 million awarded through the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) has been misspent or is unaccounted for, while a further £133.9 million may also have to be written off." tip of the iceberg
You have still technically sent £3000.
Using simplified figures:
The EU says "We want £350m a week from you. But you have a £200m rebate"
So we say "OK, so we are sending you £150m a week"
If we leave the EU....how does that suddenly equate to us being £350m a week better off? It doesn't...it equates to us being £150m a week better off.
So the initial claim that we send £350m a week to the EU, and by leaving, we will therefore have £350m a week to spend is mathematically incorrect and untrue.
If the claim was "We send £150m a week to the EU" (made up figures for this example notwithstanding), then it would be a fact. But it isn't.
That wasn't the question though was it.
In general I'd say the average working man has no interest in it or the time for it.
This is a class war all the rich and middle classes want in.
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