Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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enkoda said:
Genuinely confused here: he said that our parliament is the supreme authority for law-making in this country, then goes on to say that leaving the EU will require a comprehensive review of the UK legal system (he also goes on to say this will keep people like him in work for a very long time). Why? If the laws we have made are 'ours', even if they contain legal requirements from the EU, then why would they need to be looked at, why not just leave them as they are?:confused:
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Nope, you missed it. Any law made in the last 40 years was in combination with account for EU law. If we leave then we don't need to account for EU law any more, in fact we won't have a law per-se for a certain matter because the ground underneath has changed. So he will be in a job for a long time because even to re-write the law he'd need to unravel the EU aspect of it.

I trust him to know his stuff versus the person who has one OcUK window and one Facebook window open :p.
 
Skunkworks said:
My official prediction (because I know you've all been waiting):

58% Leave

My reasoning:

  • Remain getting absolutely slated all over social media, which is primarily the domain of the demographic most expect to vote Remain.
  • Attempts to demonise Leave voters as racist/xebophobic etc makes me believe they’re less likely to be honest about their voting intentions, so if the polls say 50% I suspect it’ll actually be a few more.
  • Polls in recent years have suggested 70%+ of the UK wants immigration reduced.

If I’m wrong I shall eat my hat (which is made of cheesecake).
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The Scottish Indy Ref social media had total monopoly on Yes, it wasn't even close.
 
helmet said:
Nope, you missed it. Any law made in the last 40 years was in combination with account for EU law. If we leave then we don't need to account for EU law any more, in fact we won't have a law per-se for a certain matter because the ground underneath has changed. So he will be in a job for a long time because even to re-write the law he'd need to unravel the EU aspect of it.

I trust him to know his stuff versus the person who has one OcUK window and one Facebook window open :p.
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How on earth can you trust a single persons view no matter what his educational qualifications are? :confused:

I look at many facets of everyone and then make an informed personal choice.

You have to look at the big picture not the small print. ;)
 
itchy said:
How on earth can you trust a single persons view no matter what his educational qualifications are? :confused:

I look at many facets of everyone and then make an informed personal choice.

You have to look at the big picture not the small print. ;)
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What like Farage??? Oh wait no we have to listen to what suits you...
 
Some in-depth analysis

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Boycey0211 said:
That's the one quote you will never live down mate, you never cease to amaze me.

Remember all that stuff I linked you to that you didn't bother reading? Yeah good luck with that.
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Links and so called expert facts do not detract of the way the world works.

Its bloody hard to put into words without rolling out miles of tinfoil and hoping people will understand.

Its deep, its complicated and very shocking, but I can assure you no matter what we vote we screwed.

Not sure how we can solve or fix it but, manipulation, lies, deceit and money is how the world works OK!.... I digress. :rolleyes:
 
Don't forget foreign aid, lol! When there's nothing else to moan about -- it always returns to haunt GD. :D Intel/Team Green for me, but I have sinned with ladies in red dresses on multiple occasions, lol. :p

Anyhow, let's not waste breath on GPU wars...

The debate:

Ruth - over 9000!
Fran - meh, she put one or two points from the trade unions' perspective across, and is clearly passionate about the working conditions and rights of workers, but Alan Johnson/Caroline Lucas would've been better on delivery on that angle
Sadiq - wobbled at the start, but got into it reasonably quickly; shame he was essentially doing the Leadsom PR thing for Remain at points, although with the apolitical crowds repetition, I agree, does win the day

Gisela - top beast for Leave this time; though was never pressed on what the Labour movement, on which she heaped a lot of hope and praise, in Britain, would look like post-Brexit, with a default and resilient inbuilt Tory advantage under redrawn boundaries, potentially absent Scotland and FPTP (and of course a rightwing-max cabinet); oh well
Andrea - in the famous words of Immortan Joe, "Mediocre!"; but mostly evasive and on full PR mode
BoJo - top bants with Sadiq, a few drawn out tangents (he does that in the Commons too), and funny at times, but aside from set pieces felt like a collegial sideshow

Dimbleby - always a pleasure :)
Crowd - they were there for blood, not the debate; one Labour activist and one Tory councillor, iirc, battling it out as 'the people', really now (tinfoil engaged!) but as Old Coals says, it's down to who applied, and the total ticket pool was large

Prediction: Remain to take it with 56% of the turnout, which I expect will be around GE levels. In the interest of full disclosure: my hat is made of Napoleon cake (Mille-feuille), just in case. ;)
 
itchy said:
Links and so called expert facts do not detract of the way the world works.

Its bloody hard to put into words without rolling out miles of tinfoil and hoping people will understand.

Its deep, its complicated and very shocking, but I can assure you no matter what we vote we screwed.

Not sure how we can solve or fix it but, manipulation, lies, deceit and money is how the world works OK!.... I digress. :rolleyes:
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https://youtu.be/LIE40EwJWqA
 
Efour said:
i live in Northern sweden so im very far removed from any urban nonsense like in Malmo or the crappy parts of Stockholm.

The town i live in does have a crazy amount of "refugees/asylum seekers 5% in 2014 more likely 10% now tbh."

Ja, jag kan prata svenska, men jag är skit dåligt eftersom jag prata med et London dialekt. Jag förstår mycket mer än jag kan saga. :confused::p

I went to adult language school with a ton of them mostly iraqi and syrian-kurd muslims but a lot of African christians too. All i can say is religion messes you up, doesn't matter what you follow it makes you a blinkered, uneducated idiot.

My town is nice. THe local government tax a lot and spend a lot on the local environment so it feels clean and well maintained always. It kinda reminds me of the UK in 1980s... They still have libraries and community buildings here. THey closed all my local london ones decades ago....

its nice here but i think it will go to rat **** in the next 20 years for whatever reasons.
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Rubbish.

You're being culturally enriched, you'll all be rich and happy in a shrinking post industrial society. Think of how many doctors and engineers you have!
 
Skunkworks said:
My official prediction (because I know you've all been waiting):

58% Leave

My reasoning:

  • Remain getting absolutely slated all over social media, which is primarily the domain of the demographic most expect to vote Remain.
  • Attempts to demonise Leave voters as racist/xebophobic etc makes me believe they’re less likely to be honest about their voting intentions, so if the polls say 50% I suspect it’ll actually be a few more.
  • Polls in recent years have suggested 70%+ of the UK wants immigration reduced.

If I’m wrong I shall eat my hat (which is made of cheesecake).
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Bon appétit. :D
 
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