Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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Don't you just despise those middle aged people who think they know absolutely everything just because they're getting that little bit older?

News flash, you don't.
 
What Brexit failed to mention (Times):

One of the biggest financial backers of the official Brexit campaign is a former member of the far-right British National party, it emerged yesterday.

Gladys Bramall, 88, from Sutton Coldfield in Birmingham, has given £600,000 to Vote Leave, making her its third-biggest individual donor.

Mrs Bramall’s name and address were included on a leaked BNP membership list from 2006.

Mrs Bramall confirmed that she had been a BNP member, but had been registered by her husband, Leonard. She gave £100,000 to Vote Leave on April 29 and £500,000 on May 9.

Mrs Bramall has a majority shareholding in Construct-Equip, a plant hire business. She and her husband, who died in 2014, were also the sole directors of Bramac, a business consultancy that was dissolved in February with assets of almost £5 million.

Under questioning from Frances O’Grady, general secretary of the Trades Union Congress, at the BBC’s referendum debate last night, none of the three panellists from the Leave campaign would be drawn on whether Mrs Bramall’s donation should be returned. Andrea Leadsom said the suggestion was “unworthy of this debate”.

Michael Gove said that Vote Leave was investigating the donation.

Vote Leave did not respond to a request for comment.
 
My prediction is that Remain will win with 52% of the vote. Turnout will be 70%.

Yep I'd say it will be about that. Who knows how much difference the recent campaign suspensions will have.

And then following us staying in out comes the new enlarged EU budget, new plans for "faster and deeper" integration, more "integration" of military forces etc. Or maybe they'll wait until after the French and German elections like the below.

Professor Otmar Issing - a former chief economist at the European Central Bank and architect of the euro - "EU elites were afraid to confront voters, delaying their plans for integration until after 2017, the year France and Germany hold national elections. The thrust of all these ideas is going through a back door towards fiscal union, voters in the end will understand what is going on. They will know they are being exploited."

Can't wait.
 
What Brexit failed to mention (Times):

For P sake, so if someone is member of the BNP should be marginalised? Isn't that discrimination?
Also you forget that the BNP is a legal political party in this country?

How much hypocrisy?
 
My official prediction (because I know you've all been waiting):

58% Leave

My reasoning:

  • Remain getting absolutely slated all over social media, which is primarily the domain of the demographic most expect to vote Remain.
  • Attempts to demonise Leave voters as racist/xebophobic etc makes me believe they’re less likely to be honest about their voting intentions, so if the polls say 50% I suspect it’ll actually be a few more.
  • Polls in recent years have suggested 70%+ of the UK wants immigration reduced.

If I’m wrong I shall eat my hat (which is made of cheesecake).

No chance! Look at these numbers:
https://electionsetc.com/2016/06/19/updated-combined-eu-referendum-forecast-6/
 
i live in Northern sweden so im very far removed from any urban nonsense like in Malmo or the crappy parts of Stockholm.

The town i live in does have a crazy amount of "refugees/asylum seekers 5% in 2014 more likely 10% now tbh."

Ja, jag kan prata svenska, men jag är skit dåligt eftersom jag prata med et London dialekt. Jag förstår mycket mer än jag kan saga. :confused::p

I went to adult language school with a ton of them mostly iraqi and syrian-kurd muslims but a lot of African christians too. All i can say is religion messes you up, doesn't matter what you follow it makes you a blinkered, uneducated idiot.

My town is nice. THe local government tax a lot and spend a lot on the local environment so it feels clean and well maintained always. It kinda reminds me of the UK in 1980s... They still have libraries and community buildings here. THey closed all my local london ones decades ago....

its nice here but i think it will go to rat **** in the next 20 years for whatever reasons.


Post after post telling you to vote a certain way and he doesn't even live here. Oh dear.
 
I was watching this BBC video online about the EU Referendum.

On that video so many people said "if we vote to remain I'm emigrating."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Brilliant!

Since the future of the UK as a sovereign nation will be in serious doubt if the EU wins this referendum I can see why they'd want to do that and as EU citizens they'd have the right to go anywhere in the EU. Or are you suggesting that free movement of people should just be in one direction?
 
i live in Northern sweden so im very far removed from any urban nonsense like in Malmo or the crappy parts of Stockholm.

The town i live in does have a crazy amount of "refugees/asylum seekers 5% in 2014 more likely 10% now tbh."

Ja, jag kan prata svenska, men jag är skit dåligt eftersom jag prata med et London dialekt. Jag förstår mycket mer än jag kan saga. :confused::p

I went to adult language school with a ton of them mostly iraqi and syrian-kurd muslims but a lot of African christians too. All i can say is religion messes you up, doesn't matter what you follow it makes you a blinkered, uneducated idiot.

My town is nice. THe local government tax a lot and spend a lot on the local environment so it feels clean and well maintained always. It kinda reminds me of the UK in 1980s... They still have libraries and community buildings here. THey closed all my local london ones decades ago....

its nice here but i think it will go to rat **** in the next 20 years for whatever reasons.

Credit to you for being honest. Let's hope it all turns out well whichever way it goes.
 
I see that the Welsh have had enough of this endless campaigning...

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:p
 
I was watching this BBC video online about the EU Referendum.

On that video so many people said "if we vote to remain I'm emigrating."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Brilliant!

That does amuse me as a Brexiteer. Speaking for myself I have no objection to immigrants, my wife is one. I do however object to very high levels of immigration ib a short space of time that we have no control over.

Change is good but it has to be at a pace that can be managed and gives populations time to adjust. Politicians of all people should understand this, sadly ideology and ego often gets in the way.
 
The great debate only seemed to have a lot of rhetoric to be honest, it enthused the campaigns with more energy but still had issues like sadiq trying to point at racism on the leave side again. I'd consider remain more if I didn't feel I was handing my future to people willing to lie, ignore and use mental gymnastics over major issues. Same with leave in some areas of course but the financial side has been debated time and again and more recently been looking like it will have less impact whereas the remain side is more like voting to let the issues get much worse.

If the economy gets a bit worse people will work to resolve it, can I trust the immigration argument will ever get resolved if we go back to 90's and millinemium labour style ignorance of just brandishing everyone racist and hate filled? How long can we keep doing that?
 
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10,000 EU employees on more money than our PM and people still want to vote Remain? Why don't you just take the ferry to Brussells and go bend over for them as well
 
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10,000 EU employees on more money than our PM and people still want to vote Remain? Why don't you just take the ferry to Brussells and go bend over for them as well

Not really sure what the point of that statistic is, it's been discussed for a long time that our politicians aren't exactly well paid for what they do. There are head teachers of state schools being paid more than the PM


That's why they all fiddle their expenses and take second jobs :p
 
That does amuse me as a Brexiteer. Speaking for myself I have no objection to immigrants, my wife is one. I do however object to very high levels of immigration ib a short space of time that we have no control over.

Change is good but it has to be at a pace that can be managed and gives populations time to adjust. Politicians of all people should understand this, sadly ideology and ego often gets in the way.

You do realise that brexit won't make any difference to immigration, right? Over half all immigration currently is non-EU and yet it still continues and this is with a Tory government. Your best hope is that brexit will so thoroughly destroy the economy that no one will want to come here, back to being the "poor man of Europe" perhaps?
 
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