Ah but they'd be forced to deal with it, a such they get propped up by the EU instead.
Also they can't devalue the euro to their benefit, it just helps Germany more.
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Ah but they'd be forced to deal with it, a such they get propped up by the EU instead.
Also they can't devalue the euro to their benefit, it just helps Germany more.
I think '|/' would have been more apt.
Why do they keep wheeling out John Major, who actually wants to listen to what he says? I don't get it.
Please keep rolling out nobodies who are disguised for some reason as big hitters
more votes for leave 
Do any remain voters take in what John Major says? speaks volumes if so.
Please keep rolling out nobodies who are disguised for some reason as big hitters
more votes for leave Do any remain voters take in what John Major says? speaks volumes if so.
The air quality standards? The legislation passed by the EU to curb pollution?
Whilst most of our cities have pollution well above standards, what are the UK politicians doing? Yep thats right, lobbying to have proposed air quality standards weakened.
Why do you focus on the last 18 months in Spain, and not look at a longer time period? A time period longer than 18 months would be more representative. You are not being selective, are you?
Would you like to explain why Youth Unemployment Rate in Spain averaged 34.32% from 1986 until 2016? Even before the 2008 recession, Youth Unemployment in Spain between 2000-2008 averaged roughly 20%. Yes it has decreased recently, but the overall trend is one of shockingly high unemployment. This points to deeper structural problems with the Spanish economy. Just on these terms, the UK economy has outperformed the Spainish economy.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/youth-unemployment-rate
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The issue lies with the corruption and the people have and quite happily would continue to run the economy into the ground while cutting themselves a nice slice of the pie.
It does give germany the advantage but it is neither the fault of the EU and if they were not in the EU, they would face the same problems.
The point i am making is that people use Spain, Italy and Greece as examples of countries ruined by the EU but as far as Italy goes (and Greece imo), they ruined themselves. The EU just prolongs their ruin and takes the edge off the average person, who does not deserve the economy they have been given.
Sigh, I know.
Bur when you can blame something else for your own woes, the average person does.
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Because Britain is full of idiotic blind fools.
That video also explains a lot more about how the EU works and the UK's influence within it - which is what most voters seem clueless about. Why is this the case?
Leave campaign/right wing press have clear vested interest in misleading the public
Remain campaign contains UK politicians that still want/need to use the EU as a scapegoat for their own failings
Neither official campaign has covered themselves in glory, however the misinformation currently in circulation could well result in people voting leave because they have been convinced that this will mean an end to immigration and an extra £350 Million per week for the NHS...
Oh I do beg John Barnes' pardon. He isn't for leave at all: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/22/john-barnes-gove-says-voting-leave-wrong.
...by one of the authors of the book on how to dismantle and privatise the NHS. You couldn't make it up.
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What the hell has a statistic from 1986 got to do with today, too many people love looking back in the past...
I agree that people just love to place the blame on the nearest convenient thing. It's evident by this whole fiasco. The blame game will continue if we leave; I suspect that the excuse will be "we left the EU on the basis of a public vote and we've worked with the resources at our disposal". There will be literally no responsibility taken for anything that even goes slightly wrong.
I have been reading up about the EU because of tomorrows Referendum.
A few things seem apparent, possibly coincidence, or perhaps just food for thought.
This is a general outline.
- The Euro as a currency is too weak for Germany, thus they have strong exports. I.e. lots of money.
- The Euro as a currency is too strong for countries in Southern Europe, they have poor exports. They now have huge debt. Particularly Greece.
- The largest creditors for Greece are Germany.
https://www.rt.com/business/312080-germany-profits-greece-debt/
- Germany are now buying up Greek infrastructure.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...mpany-wins-privatization-bid-14-greek-regiona
What happens when Germany decides to call in their debt with Portugal, Italy, Spain, Turkey, etc, over the next 50 years?
Quote: "Germany is the eurozone’s biggest problem The monetary union will fail if it is run for the benefit of creditors alone"
https://next.ft.com/content/7fcb38e8-15f5-11e6-9d98-00386a18e39d
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wi...flashpoint-in-eurozone-debt-crisis-2016-03-08
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europ.../File:Long-term_interest_rates_(eurozone).png
Have I been watching too much Bond? Or does Merkel have a big fluffy white cat?
The essence of your argument, the principle of a single inflation rates being too high for some reasons and too low for others is sound. It's one of the reasons that Germany benefits. And we would too if successive British governments had left us with any manufacturing base. You don't see the German's running away from a single currency crying "oh no, we can't compete" but that's the basis that many on the Leave campaign have been operating. The EU is kind of set up for the biggest benefits to go to the biggest / richest countries. Much like most other areas of life. Which begs the question of why the UK as one of the biggest and richest countries in the EU, has so many people in it keen to get out.
Also, on the subject of Greece, they're a special case. What you say is right of Spain and Portugal but Greece was going to nose-dive whatever you did. They lied to meet the entry requirements for joining, have had endemic tax evasion for as long as I can remember and an attitude towards borrowing that resembles that of an alcoholic to cheap wine.
Believe me when I say that Angela Merkel does NOT want Greece in the state it's in. The exposure of German banks to Greek debt is far higher than they want. A Greece that is bankrupt is not a Greece that buys a lot of imports. It's just a source of unrest and risk.
He's not German at all, They were more to emphasize the question from another point of view.
No idea what that means.
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