Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[b0redj0rd]

in the event of an Out vote, will Cameron & Osbourne /quit straight away?
surely it would not be in the countries best interest to have them stay 1 day longer after an out vote?

Good question really. Would Cameron be trusted to negotiate the exit? Could he remain PM and have someone else head up the negotiation?
Would the Conservatives prefer that to having the uncertainty of a leadership change?

.. Would he have a choice? An enraged public could demand it ...

In summary. No idea.

 

[Tefal]

The negotiation will not be handled by this government but the next.


I can see the next GE after an exit being a split between "we will rejoin the eu" and "we wont rejoin the eu" being the top partty policies

 

[cainer]

Depends we dont ask politicians to wuit every time something they suport doesnt get voted through do we?

well i can see Gove and Boris still doing ok if we vote remain,
but with the doom n gloom that DC and GO are banging on about i feel like they are hanging themselfs out to dry, and there would be no place for them should we vote leave

 

[Judgeneo]

I can see the next GE after an exit being a split between "we will rejoin the eu" and "we wont rejoin the eu" being the top partty policies

God I hope not, that would mean I would be forced to choose for whoever wants to remain out.

 

[Mr Jack]

I can see the next GE after an exit being a split between "we will rejoin the eu" and "we wont rejoin the eu" being the top partty policies

I doubt it, personally. Doing it so quickly would be really damaging. However, I do think - if we don't immediately go for the single market/free movement - that will be in the manifesto of at least one party if not next general election then definitely the one after.

 

[Tefal]

well i can see Gove and Boris still doing ok if we vote remain,
but with the doom n gloom that DC and GO are banging on about i feel like they are hanging themselfs out to dry, and there would be no place for them should we vote leave

They will be gone at rhe election.

But i dont think negotiations will start till after the ge because other wisebit will be 2 differnt govenrlents each doing about a yearnof the negotiation

 

[Tefal]

I doubt it, personally. Doing it so quickly would be really damaging. However, I do think - if we don't immediately go for the single market/free movement - that will be in the manifesto of at least one party if not next general election then definitely the one after.

The ge will be before the exit.

 

[Mr Jack]

The ge will be before the exit.

Are you saying that because you believe we'll hold an early general election, or because you believe that the negotiations will take us past 2020?

 

[cainer]

They will be gone at rhe election.

But i dont think negotiations will start till after the ge because other wisebit will be 2 differnt govenrlents each doing about a yearnof the negotiation

users of mobile phones should be banned from posting
or are you drunk? its ok, you can tell us

 

[Tefal]

Are you saying that because you believe we'll hold an early general election, or because you believe that the negotiations will take us past 2020?

Doh sorry i had it in my headnit was 2017.

**** knows what i was thinking about

 

[Mr Jack]

Doh sorry i had it in my headnit was 2017.

**** knows what i was thinking about

Wishful thinking I imagine. Looking forward to that glorious moment when Jeremy Corbyn becomes our Prime Minister

 

[The Mad Rapper]

I do think whichever way this goes though, it's going to leave the country very divided, with 'I told you so' accusations flying from either side whenever anything negative happens afterwards, which is not going to be good in the slightest

That is inevitable. Cameron will not hang around to deal with the fallout.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

Wishful thinking I imagine. Looking forward to that glorious moment when Jeremy Corbyn becomes our Prime Minister

I shall then take one for the non-Communist team and slot him.

 

[Zethor]

examples?


Cause the only one i can think of ended up with the intellectuals being the first against the wall.

Abortion, gay rights, universal suffrage all had popular support years/decades before laws were passed.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

Gove is right, every other economic expert is wrong.

Economics is basically guessing. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to guess. I wouldn't apportion a greater deal of weight to the views of an economist than I would any other professional.

 

[Captain]

I think Gove handled himself well in that debate.

 

[Tefal]

Abortion, gay rights, universal suffrage all had popular support years/decades before laws were passed.

Ok lets assume thats true which intellectual forced it through where others failed?

 

[Zethor]

Ok lets assume thats true which intellectual forced it through where others failed?

It's not just intellectuals, it's politicians too, the rich and other influential figures. Elites, generally speaking. Look at any turning point in the history of advanced democracies and you will notice that without a strong support from elites, significant changes in society simply do not occur, despite popular support. Strong support for something from elites is an important requirement before decisions are made and the support from elites for Brexit is quite weak - about 20-25% MP support, very low expert support, very low support from cultural/scientific figures.

 

[Gilly]

That is inevitable. Cameron will not hang around to deal with the fallout.

Why should he? This is not a problem of his making, whether that's something people like to think or not.

 

[Mr Jack]

I'm disappointed to see that StrongerIn is already pretending that Gove said that Brexit will leave to join losses; that's not what he said. Not that you'd know from BBC News. *sigh*