I remember before Ed Milliband left, he went into some food place for a photo/filming opportunity and the owner didn't even know who he was.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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I remember before Ed Milliband left, he went into some food place for a photo/filming opportunity and the owner didn't even know who he was.
No, it's because as I said, on the whole the general population don't give a toss about the names of politicians. Hell, I'd guess most people wouldn't even know their own MPs, local or EU or councillors let alone look into policies when voting for them
I figured this might be the kind of question there has been studies done on, and that lead me to this rather depressing blog post. Here's the proportion of people by EU country who could answer 1 or more (blue) or all 3 (red) of these very basic questions:
For each of the following statements about the EU could you please tell me whether you think it is true or false [Options: True / False / Don’t Know]
1. The EU currently consists of 28 Member States,
2. The members of the European Parliament are directly elected by the citizens of each Member State,
3. Switzerland is a Member State of the EU.
1. The EU currently consists of 28 Member States,
2. The members of the European Parliament are directly elected by the citizens of each Member State,
3. Switzerland is a Member State of the EU.
So, er, you'd probably not find much difference in France but you'd probably fare better in Germany or Sweden and a lot better in Slovenia and Luxenbourg and since these three basic questions are apparently beyond many I doubt you'd get correct answers to the names of many EU figures.
Probably not, but I bet if they were told the names they would be people we'd heard of
They are all kind of similar in many ways in that there are a lot of Ifs
Could we get free trade or not IF we don't accept free movement
Haven't got a clue
Would the UK block the EU if we stay in anyway?
Again, not a clue
Environment
Completly agree we could achieve same without the EU
But on this one I don't think we would. And business would win out of nature reserves etc
So really, if I make a decision today it would simply be on the last point as others are much of a muchness
Comes down to not being able to trust politicians. Any of them. So all the campaigning.. I have decided is mostly BS and unfounded predictions.
My day to day life is probably only going to be impacted by the environmental side, as I like to visit nature reserves etc like that I can send goods back within 28 days etc.
Meh to the rest
It's sad, it's not that I want to stay, I'd vote out ideally, u just don't think the things that matter to me will be better out
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You really think so? Honestly... When this is all over most will have completely forgotten again.
Is it really? So tell me again how someone in Europe who I have never heard their name, never set foot on their soil or never voted for or who appeared on our ballots can overrule us... That is not democracy and there is no way of saying otherwise.
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Nobody makes you and there is truth in my last statement relating to your comment.
The remainers refuse to take their blinkers off. They attack everything leave say as utopian nonsense but hate when their own fear mongered arguments are rebuffed.
The economy shrinks, print more money and away we go all will be fine
Nobody makes you and there is truth in my last statement relating to your comment.
The remainers refuse to take their blinkers off. They attack everything leave say as utopian nonsense but hate when their own fear mongered arguments are rebuffed.
The economy shrinks, print more money and away we go all will be fine
The economy shrinks, print more money and away we go all will be fine
I thought profligate spending from the eternal money tree was the preserve of the Looney Left?
What person are you referring to? Juncker can't overrule us. Tusk can't overrule us. The only people you could possibly be referring to are the judges of the European Court of Justice but surely you don't expect to be able to elect judges, do you? And, in any case, judges can only hold the UK to laws we previously agreed to so I'm not sure it really counts as overruling us so much as simply accepting the rule of law.
The economy shrinks, print more money and away we go all will be fine
Let us leave aside the question of whether printing money would be sensible or effective, and let me ask you this: if printing money will improve the economy enough to balance the damage from Brexit, why not print money and not have the damage from Brexit and be better off?
I understand and respect that.
The issue is with the EU there are a lot of knowns:
- we continue to pay over the odds to a club
- we remain and are pulled in closer
- the EU continues to demand and obligate ever bigger subscription payments
- the EU will continue to expand (only idiots will say it wont continue)
- finances of all EU nations will continue to have forced monopolization by central bank cartels
- bureaucracy will continue
- nations will be mandated to provide XXXX/XX,XXX troops toward the Euro Army
- fiscal oppression will continue
Lets look at the facts of the EU:
It bullies nations, threatens them, overrules their people, imposes fiscal tyranny on millions and tells all states what to do.... And remain are ok with this?
I still have yet to hear an argument given that cannot be explained by the out camp. Even when remain gets given an answer it ignores what has just been asked/stated.
The economy shrinks, print more money and away we go all will be fine
You keep saying this but I haven't seen anywhere else supporting this. Could you just explain how you can print more money without it de-valuing the current coin and lead to inflation? Slow and steady please, I'm just simple folk.
I thought profligate spending from the eternal money tree was the preserve of the Looney Left?
What has the ECB done? What has the UK done? What has the US done and a lot of European economies? That's right produced more money by printing it. And for the record its not just the left that do it.
Well, if this was to happen I think it'll be pitchforks on the streets!!
MPs 'considering using majority' to keep UK in single market.
So, if it's an "Out" vote Parliament will over rule it, is what they're basically saying.
MPs 'considering using majority' to keep UK in single market.
So, if it's an "Out" vote Parliament will over rule it, is what they're basically saying.
Well the UK previously agreed with the EU that we'd have an opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights, but the ECJ decided that hadn't been agreed after all.
BTW - the President of the ECJ is Baron Koen Lenaerts.
We've been printing money since 2009 under QE and inflation is at incredibly low levels in the UK.
Well, if this was to happen I think it'll be pitchforks on the streets!!
MPs 'considering using majority' to keep UK in single market.
So, if it's an "Out" vote Parliament will over rule it, is what they're basically saying.
Don't worry it won't come to that, Cameron will not take us out of the EU whatever the result.
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No one in this country, except for a tiny number of people in his Witney constituency got to vote for David Cameron, but he's still PM. The same is true for all cabinet positions. They are all appointed. Gorden Brown was never elected as PM, yet the Labour party appointed him as their leader, and thus MP. The whole of the civil service is also by appointment. Is this also undemocratic?
Any democracy has a certain degree of delegated power. In the case of the EU, commissioners are appointed by democratically accountable members of each member state.
Even if commissioners were directly elected, it's very unlikely that you or anyone else in the UK would be able to vote for a member in another country, and they would remain relatively unknown outside of that country.
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Well, that would just confirm what a..... he really is, even though some don't need him to confirm it.
In addition it would also confirm all that is wrong in today's politics and politicians wonder why people don't trust them or engage more!
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The ECB just did this with Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, we did it with QE various European countries did it and of course the US gave an eye watering injection into its economy. QE, credit creation... Its all the creation of money from nothing.
Its ok to do it when a country has a recession but we leave a bloc and we can't do it? Errr yea cus that makes sense.
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