Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)
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And as she won't make those views public, only a delusion would make them matter.
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Is the Queen allowed views (make them public) on anything political?
Really? You seem like the "send them back" type to me
It's seen as good practice not to speak out but she can't be locked up if she changed her mind, it's not the law.
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Even if it were she can't be prosecuted. The CPS can't prosecute the Crown for which they serve.
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Sadly for quite a few people
working migrant / Economic scrounger migrant / and refugee fleeing bombs are all the same. Even highly intelligent journalists lump them together when it suits them.
Some of the people voting out do not care if the people coming in are working or not they simply don't like the foreigners (the majority of migration comes from outside the EU) but hey why let facts get in the way.
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After all, the Queen is head of the Church of England and head-of-state, and head of the armed forces, and delegates royal prerogative to parliament and the executive. Our national anthem is dedicated to a mix of "God" and "Queen" Mix in with this the fact that our upper chamber have 'Lords Spiritual' from our ecclesiastical hierarchy, to what extent might it be said that Britain isn't theocracy?
It's a spiritual theocracy at best, and a defacto constitutional democracy in practice.
The Palace has made an official complaint about The Sun's story.
Even if what she said is being accurately reported it doesn't support their headline. This really is low, even by the standards of the Murdoch media.
Even if what she said is being accurately reported it doesn't support their headline. This really is low, even by the standards of the Murdoch media.
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I am not by any means trying to suggest it is all the problem but at present once an EU country issues a passport to a refugee they have all the rights of free movement of an EU citizen. So access to the UK via EU migration is only as strong as the weakest citizenship process in the EU. Leaving the EU would close this door, I would imagine that migration for EU citizens would remain in some form but it might be an opportunity for some form of change.
Ultimately though immigration may be high profile it is not a significant reason to leave the EU. Avoidance of the inexorable stangulation by ever closer union is a much better reason.
Ultimately though immigration may be high profile it is not a significant reason to leave the EU. Avoidance of the inexorable stangulation by ever closer union is a much better reason.
The Sun isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Expect a grovelling retraction from them in the coming days. The fact that the Palace and Cleg deny it and the Suns alleged source is anonymous tells it's own story. Gutter press is gutter press.
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Who is issuing residency and passports to refugees right now? Nobody, that's who. So the only link is possibly maybe perhaps in years to come but if you look at the requirements for say German citizenship its unlikely anyone who meets them would suddenly flee to the UK as soon as they get a passport, what would be the point?
The sort who would would probably not qualify for a German passport anyway.
The sort who would would probably not qualify for a German passport anyway.
There is no country in the EU in which getting citizenships is a quick or easy process for refugees and typically includes many years of residence* and passing high level competency tests in the local language. The idea that refugees are going to acquire citizenship in another country and then, after living their for years, relocate in large numbers to the UK is fantastical.
*- The lowest is 3 in Belgium, followed by 4 in Ireland, and then a group of countries - including us - where it takes 5 years. (source, via Fullfact)
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Good news, I bet the Queen and her household are furious with both the sun and murdoch, having made an official complaint this story could have legs and indeed consequences.
I seem to recall reading that one idea Merkel's government is mulling over is to grant emergency citizenship to so-called refugees and make them German citizens within a year of applying for asylum. Annoyingly I can't remember where I read it and DDG is coming up blank, but you can't deny that there's nothing to stop Germany (or any other EU country) doing that, and then, as long as we're in the EU we can't legally stop them entering the UK. It's a risk for sure, even if it's not happening yet.
I doubt it very much indeed.
Yes, it's possible. Lots of things are possible. Our government could declare tomorrow that it will grant everyone in Syria a British passport. That's possible. But it's not going to happen. Similar, yes, it's possible for an EU country to grant passports in such a fashion but, in reality, it's not going to happen. In fact, EU countries are trending towards making it more not less difficult to obtain citizenship.
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Merkel doesn’t want all the migrants and she’s failed to force them on other members, so giving them passports and allowing them to disperse themselves isn’t exactly implausible given her recent behaviour.
"Macedonia has said it will no longer let any migrants through its border with Greece, effectively blocking the Balkan route north"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35763101
Well done Macedonia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35763101
Well done Macedonia.
Slovenia moves to 'shut down' Balkans route:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35760534
Well done Slovenia.
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