Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 400 43.3%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 523 56.7%
  • Total voters
    923
  • Poll closed .
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Well saw in the headlines today that Barak Obama is coming over to give a speech about how we should stay in.

Can't think of many PR stunts that are more wrong-headed. As if most of those who want to be part of Europe want US approval! Great! Now I'm forced to agree with Boris Johnson on something. :(
 
h4rm0ny said:
Well saw in the headlines today that Barak Obama is coming over to give a speech about how we should stay in.

Can't think of many PR stunts that are more wrong-headed. As if most of those who want to be part of Europe want US approval! Great! Now I'm forced to agree with Boris Johnson on something. :(
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When most political leaders, scietists and business leaders say the same thing, it may be wise to listen.
 
Does Obama really care what happens to Britain and the British people? It's been US foreign policy for a while for Britain to be their voice in Europe, but what about the British people? Shouldn't our voice matter more to our government?
 
scorza said:
Does Obama really care what happens to Britain and the British people? It's been US foreign policy for a while for Britain to be their voice in Europe, but what about the British people? Shouldn't our voice matter more to our government?
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Obama won't get a view on the referendum.
 
thep02 said:
Under public pressure the eu moves to ban or restrict Glyphosate use, guaranteed an independent UK would definitely give in to usa pressure to not only use the poison but do so secretly.

http://m.journal-neo.org/2016/03/13/the-incredible-brussels-glyphosate-sheep-dip/
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there are always 2 sides to the story though.

reminds me of that pesticide that was banned recently because of the effect on bees - the evidence it was bad for bees was pretty slim but they banned it anyway - that forced companies to use older pesticides and those are definitely dangerous and much much worse!!!

its all about scoring political points based on public opinion and then they move on to screw up something else. There are far more dangerous chemicals/processes occurring but nothing is done because the public aren't aware of them.

The EU are no better or worse than the UK on this - i don't know where people got the idea that the EU are knights in shining armour who only care about protecting the public - its nonsense.
 
scorza said:
Does Obama really care what happens to Britain and the British people? It's been US foreign policy for a while for Britain to be their voice in Europe, but what about the British people? Shouldn't our voice matter more to our government?
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Yes, because the USA needs Airstrip One and a NATO partner that supplies troops that actually fight.
 
Zethor said:
When most political leaders, scietists and business leaders say the same thing, it may be wise to listen.
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Generally when Politicians achieve a "Consensus" it is to the disadvantage of the people that they govern.

(Much the same goes for international business leaders)

As for Scientists, I can appreciate that concern, but there is no obvious reason I can think of that would preclude international scientific cooperation post-Brexit.

After all, later this morning (?) a Mars probe with a major UK contribution is being launched by the Russians. Since when has Russia been a member of the EU?
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Yes, because the USA needs Airstrip One and a NATO partner that supplies troops that actually fight.
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Airstrip one is a fact of geography and probably won't change whether we stay or Leave. I find it all the more bizarre that the USA wants us in the EU when there's a risk that the British armed forces will be subsumed into Eurocorps and controlled by Brussels.
 
Orionaut said:
As for Scientists, I can appreciate that concern, but there is no obvious reason I can think of that would preclude international scientific cooperation post-Brexit.

After all, later this morning (?) a Mars probe with a major UK contribution is being launched by the Russians. Since when has Russia been a member of the EU?
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The concern with scientists is not mainly about collaborating internationally but with funding of research (which has been neglected by UK governments over the years) and flow of new scientists and students. A significant proportion of our research teams and students are EU students which receive funding for their education and would not be able to study and stay on as researchers without the funding. Don't fool yourself into thinking the government will pay out of choice if we leave the EU and add in a points/incentive scheme for foreign science students.

If i was still in research i would be looking at foreign projects at the moment due to fear of losing funding. Anything outside the spotlight of the media gets neglected.

The restrictions to travel may pose a problem but not a large one. The lack of funding and researchers will be enough to move projects overseas.
 
Orionaut said:
As for Scientists, I can appreciate that concern, but there is no obvious reason I can think of that would preclude international scientific cooperation post-Brexit.
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Have you stopped to consider that scientists might have greater insight into this matter than you do?
 
100% vote leave, zero doubt in my mind. There are too many reasons to list.

There was a great interview on Newsnight last week with two university lecturers, one arguing we should leave the other we should stay. The guy arguing we should leave had a very strong case and an interesting perspective on exactly what the EU stands for.
 
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