Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 400 43.3%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 523 56.7%
  • Total voters
    923
  • Poll closed .
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John40 said:
I'd say the chances of a UK Govt. putting our small army under EU control is virtually guaranteed once we've been bounced into the new "reformed" EU superstate.
Once the referendum is over the EU will have us pure and simple, it will be open season on this country to punish us for putting the EU through a bit of bother.
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Seeing as how the vast majority of our armed forces swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen...

I swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will, as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies, and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, and of the generals and officers set over me.
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...I wonder what would happen if the Commander-in-Chief (AKA HM The Queen) decided that she didn't want to hand control of her country's armed forces over to the EU and passed down orders to that effect?

That could get a little tasty.
 
John40 said:
I'd say the chances of a UK Govt. putting our small army under EU control is virtually guaranteed once we've been bounced into the new "reformed" EU superstate.
Once the referendum is over the EU will have us pure and simple, it will be open season on this country to punish us for putting the EU through a bit of bother.
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Except that's not how treaty negotiations work, especially as you need agreement from all nation states to pass reform.
 
scorza said:
Who would have thought a British Prime Minister would have given up half our rebate for next-to-nothing? This is another reason why I want out - I just don't trust our politicians not to give away more and more sovereignty to the EU. They keep doing this, I don't know why, I can only speculate but now they've actually let the common people have their say and I say we give them a bloody nose.
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So you don't trust our government to make good decisions, yet the return of sovereignty would surely make this more of an issue? You're full of inconsistencies.
 
Woden said:
That's quite a prediction, guaranteed to be right.... Since they basically said it's either going to be in or out.
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Not they didn't. 58% is the middle of a normal distribution of their prediction, and 14% the 95% confidence interval. To translate this into %age chances for the two outcomes you get: 87% chance of a Remain victory, 13% chance of a Leave victory.
 
I thought not voting would count as a NO vote?

Doesn't make sense that the UKIPers win through voter apathy.

Please tell me there is a minimum turnout at least?
 
Mulder said:
:o

Here are a few....

  • Control of our own borders, preventing the ongoing discrimination of non-EU skilled migrants (and allowing us to move to an Australian style system) the cost of this is akin to taking a sledgehammer to a peanut



  • Return of sovereignty to the UK (ending the current supremacy of EU law) why is this important?
  • Higher wages for UK workers (Stuart Rose, head of the stay campaign, is on record saying this will happen if we leave)
  • Less regulation/red tape for business (note most small to medium sized businesses want to leave, it's only the big MNC's that want in) seriously :confused: leaving a completely free trade agreement and setting up negotiated procedures with every single country will cause less red tape :confused: okaaaaaaay :rolleyes:

  • Security - As per IDS' comments...
  • Preventing any threat to the UK's military freedom (the EU wants it own Army, and the ability to use the army on its own people...) sauce (PS don't bother looking you wont find any credible sources as it's a myth)
  • Having the ability to secure trade deals with the rest of the world (Note Switzerland has just withdrawn its ongoing application to join the EU) - :rolleyes:
  • To get out before Turkey becomes a member (not on the table)
  • To prevent the demolition of our fishing industry (too late should have let Scotland's Fishery minister fight for the UK then things might have been different.)

There are many others.

Funny how when the UK was debating joining the Euro there was a lot of fear mongering around not joining, how much of a lost opportunity it was etc. Look how that turned out.

The EU is an undemocratic, bureaucratic mess heading for self desruction, the sooner we leave the better. it's more democratic than whitehall and the house of lords. But hey why let facts get in the way of a good empty phrase. :p
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Some I haven't replied to since I'm not able to verify.
 
Well, higher wages dont mean much in the grand scheme of things if you suddenly shake up the business world by removing many migrant workers (which you realistically cant do anyway). Cost of living will go up with the lower end of wage pay and the increase cost of business will also contribute to the end price the consumer pays.

As for red tape for small and medium businesses, it completely depends on what business. I know many that will suffer, including my own company, by leaving the EU. Small business who make many small trade orders will suffer heavily and lose out to competitors, as trading within the EU would be more convenient. Margins of industries built upon low income workers will crumble and it will be these workers that suffer rather than the guys at the top or the shareholders.

Do not forget that a lot of the red tape is there to protect consumers from businesses.

A lot has been said about the advantages the EU give which have not been addressed too.
 
If only the eu hadn't expanded so quickly absorbing cultures so different to our own it would be much better, much more stable and much more appealing

The turkey deal. Sounds aweful to me.
I'm not comfortable with my opinion but I really don't want so many Islamic based immigrants coming into Western Europe. It's not appealing, it's not comfortable and look at the trouble it's causing Merkel.
Also that so few countries net contribute and so many net gain just doesn't sit well with me.
Why couldn't we have a smaller eu (Germany, UK, France, Italy a few others) and a wider EC style trade deal

I don't get the reason for the rapid expansion. And the inclusion of very unstable economies (see Greece) or very different cultures (see Turkey) into ours

And it's only getting more unstable it seems.
I don't think it's the out voters in the UK that should be blamed for the eu crumbling
I think it's the eu itself


Having said all this, unfortunately I still think we will stay and this whole process will actually make things worse for ourselves
 
Return of sovereignty to the UK (ending the current supremacy of EU law) why is this important?

Being English first, British 2nd and being part of the landmass labelled Europe a very distinct 3rd this is all important to me!
 
Skunkworks said:
Supporters of Brexit are more likely to vote in the forthcoming referendum which could give the Leave campaign a decisive edge in the final result, a new Telegraph poll suggests.
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Interesting findings. It may well depend on the ability of the two camps to get their vote and here the Remain camp has an interesting advantage: because Labour have an official position on this their voter lists are available to the Labour In campaign; whereas the Conservatives lists - because they don't an official position* - aren't available to either side. This should help Remain get the vote out on the day.


* - The government has an official position; the Conservative party doesn't.
 
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