Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 400 43.3%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 523 56.7%

  • Total voters
    923
  • Poll closed .
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UKIP are mostly made up of Conservative MPs and similar, albeit more right wing, policies. Most people in poor areas are more inclined to vote for Labour due to their Socialist policies, it doesn't mean that they're not affected the most by mass immigration

UKIPs driving policies are essentially leaving the EU, 'taking back Britain' and stopping immigration. You would think the out campaign heavily allies its views with UKIPS views.

That map is very interesting as well as the table in the above post:

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UKIP are mostly made up of Conservative MPs and similar, albeit more right wing, policies.

Maybe, but their supporters are not terribly similar. UKIP supporters tend poor, working class and uneducated*. And, as shown above, from the areas with least immigration.

Most people in poor areas are more inclined to vote for Labour due to their Socialist policies, it doesn't mean that they're not affected the most by mass immigration

The poorest areas of the country aren't the areas with the highest levels of immigration. How do you expect the biggest impact from immigration to be in the areas with the lowest immigration?

* - In before some dimwit going "I vote UKIP and I've got a PhD". That's a description of the statistical averages of UKIP voters not a prediction about any individual UKIP voter.
 
UKIPs driving policies are essentially leaving the EU, 'taking back Britain' and stopping immigration. You would think the out campaign heavily allies its views with UKIPS views.

That map is very interesting as well as the table in the above post:

divEU3.png

That's an interesting graph. I wonder what it would look like if it had rough numbers of people that belonged to each group. On the basis of newspaper I suspect it might favour the leave campaign, given the Sun, Daily Mail and Express total will far outweigh the likes of the Guardian and the Times.
 
The answer to both is not until pre-defined conditions are met, at which point neither is a scary prospect.

Gordon Brown set down some very sensible rules on joining the Euro (which were never met) and the conditions for joining the EU include lots of rules about human rights and economic worthiness.

Ahhh rules...like Greece?
 
That's an interesting graph. I wonder what it would look like if it had rough numbers of people that belonged to each group. On the basis of newspaper I suspect it might favour the leave campaign, given the Sun, Daily Mail and Express total will far outweigh the likes of the Guardian and the Times.

That would be irrelevant. Using the age groups and the 2012 demographics structure, I'm getting 53% in to 47% out.
 
One interesting thing on the highest qualification one.

Anyone else think that its not nessecerily anything to do with the education but selfishness.

An uneducated working class person is very unlikely to go into the EU to work. However an educated professional is much more likley to be mobile for work in europe.


Freedom of movement doesnt really serve the working class in the uk at all compared to somewhere like poland where the working class are the main movers.
 
One interesting thing on the highest qualification one.

Anyone else think that its not nessecerily anything to do with the education but selfishness.

An uneducated working class person is very unlikely to go into the EU to work. However an educated professional is much more likley to be mobile for work in europe.


Freedom of movement doesnt really serve the working class in the uk at all compared to somewhere like poland where the working class are the main movers.

Professionals would have mobility anyway, they tend to vote In because they have better grasp of the issues. The uneducated working class, you're right about that, they're thinking with their stomachs, they don't feel like the EU has been feeding them properly.
 
Professionals would have mobility anyway, they tend to vote In because they have better grasp of the issues. The uneducated working class, you're right about that, they're thinking with their stomachs, they don't feel like the EU has been feeding them properly.

Always someone else's fault ;)

Like you say people with skills will always have advantage when it comes to choosing where they want to live.
 
Professionals would have mobility anyway, they tend to vote In because they have better grasp of the issues. The uneducated working class, you're right about that, they're thinking with their stomachs, they don't feel like the EU has been feeding them properly.

Most people who go to University just become immediately almost intolerably left wing on every issue, they begin reading The Guardian and looking down their noses at the peasant class who didn't spend 3 years blowing a student loan on alcohol and drugs while attending lectures for 15 hours a week
 
Professionals would have mobility anyway, they tend to vote In because they have better grasp of the issues. The uneducated working class, you're right about that, they're thinking with their stomachs, they don't feel like the EU has been feeding them properly.

Or could it be that 'professionals' aren't having their job opportunities and wages suppressed to the same degree as the "uneducated working class", as you call them, and benefit from cheaper access to tradesmen themselves (you know those 'uneducated' guys who you need to hire because they can do something your highly intellectual brain can't fathom).
 
That would be irrelevant. Using the age groups and the 2012 demographics structure, I'm getting 53% in to 47% out.

It's an observation about newspaper readership, I'm not trying to prove anything.

Where are you getting your demographics stats from out of interest?

And to your earlier point, I'm university educated, have a professional job, regularly travel to the EU (and also Norway/Switzerland) and will still be voting out.
 
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I can see your username, why do you keep typing your name at the bottom of your post?

Never really understood why people did this tbh. Username is there anyway and it is not like anyone would care what it is either.

Doesn't bother me, it just makes the poster seem like he is new on the net imo, like when a parent tries to sue social media and ends up posting someone's name when trying to instead search for that person.
 
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