The EU Referendum: Polling Day
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Finally decided to vote out after days on the fence. Ulimately decided so that we have more freedom on trade deals and the potintial to reduce red tape and waste. Also I think we are strong enough as a country to thrive in a worldwide market not just in europe.
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Maybe all the leave voters are at work...
Soldato
You do realise that the Tory version of 'Removing EU red tape' is reducing the workers rights we all enjoy
Also there could be more actual red tape for businesses that import/export if we go back to the hassle of dealing with duties again.
Man of Honour
Both of us are voting leave this evening. One good thing if leave loses though is that the vile SNP will have no ammo for a second independant referendum.
Soldato
Read this in the voice of that guy in Another Brick In The Wall by Pink Floyd.
Big remain vote from me, all very well if you have your own house and are near the end of your career to vote mainly on the principal of 'Britain is great and we can do what we want so I'll vote out', but for those of us a bit younger whose livelihoods and futures rely on economic stability it's a no brainer for me.
I also think the older generation is much more susceptible to the sovereignty and 'unelected officials' arguments, which I think are red herrings. We have plenty of unelected figures ourselves, Queenie, House of Lords etc.
Votes should be weighted more towards younger people as we have to live with the result for a lot longer! Sadly older people are much better at going out to vote so I'm actually quite worried on this one.
Man of Honour
Was told I wasn't allowed to use a pen in the polling station, used one regardless. What bizarre thing to say and just makes it seem dodgy
Soldato
If we leave, Scotland is almost guaranteed to exit Britain. Probably need to make peace with that prior to an Out vote.
Soldato
I took my 2 year old daughter with me today. I thought she wasn't going to be allowed in the booth with me, but they didn't mind.
Soldato
I hope this poll isn't accurate atm and that people hold their nerve to stick with leave. Have been leave all along, before the campaign started as these issues with the EU have been going on for years with things such as immigration. Hasn't been a lot of reform whilst we've been in it so I'm sticking with the leave and be free to govern ourselves. People fought for this countries independence, we need to remember some stiff upper lip and back bone. I'd rather our own government had a mandate to deliver real change rather than being an EU puppet. At least if the government doesn't deliver on that mandate I can choose to vote to kick them out.
If it were such a great thing to have free movement why haven't bigger countries outside the EU adopted that policy. Australia has had a points system since for as long as I can remember. We'll be able to accept the best from outside the EU who want to come here and start businesses and create more jobs rather than suppressing non EU migration because we can't do anything about the free movement from within the EU. What we need is some control that is applied regardless of where but on what skills benefit the country. What we want is a stronger economy based on knowledge rather than cheap competing labour. They'll be less demand for cheap labour in the future as we make less and less and will never compete with china etc on that basis. If you have a stronger knowledge based economy that pays better wages that will return far greater tax receipts than one that is skewed more towards cheap labour that in the most part pay very little in tax on national minimum wage but still require the use of all the countries services.
Vote leave your country needs you!
If it were such a great thing to have free movement why haven't bigger countries outside the EU adopted that policy. Australia has had a points system since for as long as I can remember. We'll be able to accept the best from outside the EU who want to come here and start businesses and create more jobs rather than suppressing non EU migration because we can't do anything about the free movement from within the EU. What we need is some control that is applied regardless of where but on what skills benefit the country. What we want is a stronger economy based on knowledge rather than cheap competing labour. They'll be less demand for cheap labour in the future as we make less and less and will never compete with china etc on that basis. If you have a stronger knowledge based economy that pays better wages that will return far greater tax receipts than one that is skewed more towards cheap labour that in the most part pay very little in tax on national minimum wage but still require the use of all the countries services.
Vote leave your country needs you!
Caporegime
We'll see if my evidence based predictions were accurate in a few years time.
-Cameron's 'emergency brake' to halt EU migrants benefits will never be applied.
-UK's gross liability to the EU will increase from £350m a week to >£500m a week by 2020. Rebate to be slashed another 20%. CAP still won't be reformed;
-Turkey will join the EU by 2022;
-An EU Army reporting to the European Commission will be created by 2030. EU will spend less than 1% on defence budget, making the EU army totally ineffective;
-Widespread poverty and social deprivation in most EU-NUTS;
-Top 0.1% of population's wealth has increased by 100% by 2040 in real terms.
-More terror attacks across Europe;
-Switzerland, Norway and Iceland's economies continue to thrive outside the EU.
I still haven't decided, will be voting about 6pm tonight.
From being in the middle I went to leave back to the middle and now towards remain. The Brexit propaganda is so enticing, even this morning seeing it in the metro paper I felt a stir, but I have forced myself to step back and fact check in the last week and the facts paint a much more mundane story.
Brexit camp have failed to convince me mainly due to the lack of information on the kinds of deals we could strike. It seems strange that the leave camp have not completely ruled out being an EEA member as the EEA still has free movement policy. If we do not enter the EEA then we will need to strike deals with all 27 members from scratch.
Also the process in which we would need to reformulate all of our laws and regulations has not been explained. This would be a massively costly exercise and be open to it's own abuses.
Will decide when the paper is in front of me.
From being in the middle I went to leave back to the middle and now towards remain. The Brexit propaganda is so enticing, even this morning seeing it in the metro paper I felt a stir, but I have forced myself to step back and fact check in the last week and the facts paint a much more mundane story.
Brexit camp have failed to convince me mainly due to the lack of information on the kinds of deals we could strike. It seems strange that the leave camp have not completely ruled out being an EEA member as the EEA still has free movement policy. If we do not enter the EEA then we will need to strike deals with all 27 members from scratch.
Also the process in which we would need to reformulate all of our laws and regulations has not been explained. This would be a massively costly exercise and be open to it's own abuses.
Will decide when the paper is in front of me.
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Yes am thinking the same thing, many people will be afraid of change and vote to remain to maintain the status quo. Obviously not saying everyone will vote remain for this reason, but it will be large enough to ensure remain win.
You forgot Putins tanks rolling through London, and the EU abolishing the Monarchy, to name but a few.
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