Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)
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"Top EU Socialist Will ‘Never Agree’ To Migrant Benefit Brake, Not Legally Binding Confirms Expert"
"The Italian MEP, Gianni Pittella, who speaks for the second biggest group in the EU assembly, said on Wednesday (24 February) that the welfare provisions amount to “discrimination”.
https://euobserver.com/institutional/132445
Here go again. And I see the IN party are going to use the G20 to make the EU look good.
"The Italian MEP, Gianni Pittella, who speaks for the second biggest group in the EU assembly, said on Wednesday (24 February) that the welfare provisions amount to “discrimination”.
https://euobserver.com/institutional/132445
Here go again. And I see the IN party are going to use the G20 to make the EU look good.
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Maybe that's because the poorest and most vulnerable in society are the ones who are most adversely affected by the sort of EU mass-immigration we've seen over the past couple of decades.
Quite likely. Probably incredibly difficult to prove though!
Doubtful. Anti-immigration views are highest not in the areas which have experience high immigration but in the areas that have experienced low levels of immigration, accordingly it is doubtful that this results from any personal detrimental experience of immigration.
I doubt people are up in arms about immigration in Henley-on-Thames.
"Britain's campaign to leave EU takes 4 percent point lead "
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN0VZ2QI
The BBC is being slammed for the bias of the IN lot.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN0VZ2QI
The BBC is being slammed for the bias of the IN lot.
That's a bit of a mass generalisation isn't it? We enjoy living standards and wages which are significantly better than many parts of the world, and indeed many parts of Europe. It is of no surprise that people want to come and live here, either on a permanent basis, or temporarily to amass some money.
Even with the best will in the world, we do not have the infrastructure or housing to accommodate population growth at it's current level.
I'd be happy to remain in the EU if we were able to put an end to free movement, and then ultimately be in a position to hold our politicians to account with regard to non-EU immigration too.
I'm not completely against immigration, though am worried by where this may end, both from cultural and ecological perspectives. We can't have a continent or several countries worth of people concentrated in a small geographic region.
I do not meet any of the criteria defined in your ignorant and highly offensive post. I have a successful career (well within the higher rate tax bracket) and have friends from many different countries and backgrounds.
Being employed within a fairly specialist area, my career prospects and wages have not been impacted by immigration. I can however appreciate how mass immigration has undermined the prospects and wages of people employed in factory work, construction, plumbing, and electrical work etc.
Irrespective of the economic arguments put forward by our deceitful and lying politicans (look at how they've rigged the housing market and treated junior doctors for instance), I will be voting out.
Didn't take long, now did it
Yeah, the G20 will tell us how bad our exit from the EU will be for the rest of the world, which is rather surprising considering how we keep getting told we don't stand a chance going it alone
We'll have our own "Independence Day" Bank Holiday !!
So..
If we Do Leave the EU then all you "Stay Inners" MUST go to work whilst we party !!
It's right, fair and proper !
If it is a vote for out can't see much real work being done on the 24th, everyone will be in shock contemplating the future
Didn't take long, now did it
Yeah, the G20 will tell us how bad our exit from the EU will be for the rest of the world, which is rather surprising considering how we keep getting told we don't stand a chance going it alone
Abuse of position if you ask me.
The only difference between your post and the ramblings of some of the other posters is eloquence. Unfortunately, that is insufficient during a debate, particularly when the claims are not backed by facts.
http://www.cer.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/pb_imm_uk_27sept13.pdf
The evidence, however, is fairly clear. Economists have found little evidence that immigration from the A8 endangers Britons’ employment prospects.
http://library.fes.de/pdf-files/id/ipa/08041.pdf
However, fears about socialdumping and pushing down wages or taking advantage of social security benefits have no foundation. Various studies have struggled to find any impact on the wage levels or employment prospects of native workers.
http://ftp.iza.org/dp8456.pdf
This chapter examined the relationship between these varying labor market policies, economic shocks, and the responses of migrants from the NMSs. Based upon a difference-indifferences and triple differences estimator, the results show that the estimated effect of opening home labor markets to NMS migrants is significantly positive.
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/labour-market-effects-immigration
Research by the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC) studied the impact of migrants on the employment of UK-born people using data from the Labour Force Survey (LFS) for 1975-2010 (Migration Advisory Committee 2012). The study suggests that, overall, migrants have no impact on UK-born employment. However, the MAC also analysed the specific impacts of EU and non-EU migrants and also distinguished between two sub-periods: 1975-1994 and 1995-2010.It found that non-EU immigration was associated with a reduction in the employment of UK-born workers during 1995-2010. No statistically significant effects were found for EU immigration.
As you can see, you do meet one criteria (ignorance) because there's no evidence that the wages of 'people employed in factory work, construction, plumbing, and electrical work etc' have been affected by EU free movement. In fact, non-EU migration seems to have an impact on wages and that will increase in the event of Brexit. Therefore, your out vote goes against your own reasoning so if that is not ignorance in all its glory, I don't know what is. Assuming you have not lied about your successful career, you are capable of educating yourself and adjusting your opinion so that it is aligned with the facts. I can only speculate on why you don't do so.
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But that's sinply not true. I can go onto my builder right now and find a polish plumber or worker who will come round, work nights after their day job, cash in hand, for 3/4 pf the normal rates. How is that not taking a non immigrant job? In effect they took 2 jobs out of circulation with money that will largely be sent back home. While claiming child benefits for a family based in Poland.
you are simply naive if you think job/ work cannibalisation is jot happening directly related to immigration.
you are simply naive if you think job/ work cannibalisation is jot happening directly related to immigration.
So all those studies, all the economists, they are part of a huge conspiracy with the aim of helping Polish plumbers?
If the Poles take certain jobs for 3/4 of the normal rates, the Brits take other better paid jobs. The evidence shows they don't become unemployed nor do they suffer a wage reduction. Your anecdotal evidence is laughable.
Anyone that disagrees with you is either ignorant or misinformed...? Pretty regressive of you Zethor.So all those studies, all the economists, they are part of a huge conspiracy with the aim of helping Polish plumbers?
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