Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?


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This thread is now only slightly less boring because of amazing gifs and itchy's garbage cat jaypegs, as normal.

Why don't both the STAY and the LEAVE lot just decide, "Meh, **** it, I can't change their mind, they won't change mine so let's stop typing our ever increasingly nonsensical ways of establishing and then defending our position and wait, vote, and see what happens"?
 
If we leave the EU that means millions of layabout lazy benefit claiming English people will have to get up off their arses and do the jobs they've thought themselves to good to do for 20 odd years. I can't see them going for that.

If we leave the EU does that mean the million or so leather skinned Brits will be kicked out of Spain and forced to reside in Bognor Regis?
 
[FnG]magnolia;29196333 said:
This thread is now only slightly less boring because of amazing gifs and itchy's garbage cat jaypegs, as normal.

Why don't both the STAY and the LEAVE lot just decide, "Meh, **** it, I can't change their mind, they won't change mine so let's stop typing our ever increasingly nonsensical ways of establishing and then defending our position and wait, vote, and see what happens"?

You live in New Zealand, point being??? :rolleyes:

It has sod all to do with you pal. ;)
 
[TW]Fox;29196360 said:
Well no.

There is no 'free movement of goods' from outside the EU yet we can still bring back duty free..

Duty Free is goods bought in places like airport....not in France, across the border no?

We are talking about driving to France and bring back a boot full of booze. Not with your £390 duty free cap.

(it's been a while since you quoted me btw, congrats)

So, well, no, You are wrong.
 
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Liverpool isn't England anyway. Still haven't worked out what language they speak. Should be bundled over to Wales.

Duty Free is goods bought in places like airport....not in France, across the boarder no?

We are talking about driving to France and bring back a boot full of booze. Not with your £390 duty free cap.

(it's been a while since you quoted me btw, congrats)

Duty free isn't just airports, loads of non-eu tourists can claim back tax from goods purchased here.

http://www.globalblue.com/destinations/uk/tax-free-shopping-in-uk/
 
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Duty Free is goods bought in places like airport....not in France, across the boarder no?

We are talking about driving to France and bring back a boot full of booze. Not with your £390 duty free cap.

(it's been a while since you quoted me btw, congrats)
The EU is a customs union. This means there is free movement of goods. When you fly into the EU from outside the EU, there is a limit on how much booze you can bring in without paying duty.

Driving to France and buying a ****load of wine has nothing to do with EU duties as such. You're just paying French VAT and alcohol duty.
 
As I highlighted previously Neil Woodford states it is a nil sum game leaving or staying in the EU in regards to economics. Actually grabbed an article this time.

( http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-3451621/Neil-Woodford-lays-economics-Brexit.html )

Also, just a tibit, but to Datalol-jack and a few other more "informed" speakers can you calm down with the constant demanding of reading into detailed financial reports or scouring news outlets. This is a gaming forum in a general section. If this was in the Speakers Corner I'd understand your constant throwing down the gauntlet of asking for legitimate sources. But this isn't the place.

This is, in my mind, a pub table discussion. You're acting like it's a debate club where everyone has brought prepared notes. :D
 
But to the SPECIFIC question of the Channel raid booze run.

Is it or is it not that will have to incur tax should we leave the EU?

Yes or No?
Of course. You will be liable for UK customs duties and VAT. It'll be like when you buy stuff off eBay from the USA or HK.
 
Of course. You will be liable for UK customs duties and VAT. It'll be like when you buy stuff off eBay from the USA or HK.

That's what I meant. (perhaps the term free movement of goods was used incorrectly).

To the question of datalol-jack, that was what I meant to say.
 
Then give me a plan for growing the economy at 4% or above, with lower borrowing than now, outside of the EU? Because, at a rough guess, this sort of growth would be needed to sustain some of the fantasies people here entertain.

You can be nice to workers, you can spend more -- but someone, somewhere has to pay for it.

No, because that's not my job?

You're now changing your arguments completely! You tried to say immigration drives wages up. I countered your argument with sources to prove it doesn't.
 
Duty Free is goods bought in places like airport....not in France, across the border no?

Duty free is what it says on the tin - no duty. You have an allowance of duty free when you come back into the UK, whether you've purchased it an airport or a shop, or wherever.

We are talking about driving to France and bring back a boot full of booze. Not with your £390 duty free cap.

There is no £390 'duty free cap' for alcohol, it only applies to other items. For alcohol, you can bring back 16 litres of beer and 4 litres of wine. There is also a separate allowance for spirits etc.

So, the answer is that if zero allowance was made and the EU simply reverted to the non EU rules, you could still bring back a certain quantity of alcohol from France without paying duty on it.

So, well, no, You are wrong.

Tell me more about the £390 alcohol allowance ;)

You claimed there was 'no' free movement of goods, the reality is that limited duty free imports would be allowed.
 
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