Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

[Raymond Lin]

Who said anything about £390 cap for alcohol only...you had said "goods".



https://www.gov.uk/duty-free-goods/arrivals-from-outside-the-eu

You are boring me now, doing your "pedantic detour of threads with your obsessiveness of trying to correct people" thing again. When you know what I meant already.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Who said anything about £390 cap for alcohol only...

This whole discussion is about bringing back wine from France!

Nobody is doing a Playstation 4 cruise are they?!

you had said "goods".

That was you...

We are talking about driving to France and bring back a boot full of booze. Not with your £390 duty free cap.

 

[Nate--IRL--]

You mean having to pay customs duty on everything apart from that bottle of Johnnie Walker you picked up on the way back from Corfu? AWESOME!

I ..uh ... ok, I'll admit I didn't think it through.

Edit:- No Wait, It still works. I'll still be in the EU, and I'll get duty free traveling to the UK. The Downside being I won't able to buy from OCUK or any other UK company any more though.

Nate

 

[Raymond Lin]

This whole discussion is about bringing back wine from France!

What I had said "yes" the booze run will be stopped because you have to pay tax. Which is correct?

Then you latched on to the other bit, which takes the detour which we went to.

 

[George Hincapie]

It worries me that some of you are allowed to vote

 

[datalol-jack]

No, because that's not my job?

You're now changing your arguments completely! You tried to say immigration drives wages up. I countered your argument with sources to prove it doesn't.

Whose job is it? If I wanted out, I'd want to know what Britain would become afterwards. I read many Leave sources, and they do not offer a sound model to cost or anything. Just vague referrals to Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand, whatever. Are we meant to import their approach wholesale? How would that work with our differently structured economy and geographic region (Asia Pacific vs Europe -- thus even their trade costs would be different and distances goods and services would have to cover)?

Immigration doesn't just have one direct economic effect. It's overall net effect is positive in the economy. Let's leave it at that.

 

[itchy]

Liverpool isn't England anyway. Still haven't worked out what language they speak. Should be bundled over to Wales.

I stand in awe of your perception of Liverpool!!!!

A dogs going to dig so to say?

 

[robfosters]

It worries me that some of you are allowed to vote

Coming from the man who seems to think anyone without a job should be stuck in stocks on the town square.

What makes you so much more qualified than the rest of us?

 

[datalol-jack]

What I had said "yes" the booze run will be stopped because you have to pay tax. Which is correct?

Then you latched on to the other bit, which takes the detour which we went to.

We need to get Fox on a Paxman interview. People deserve to know THE TRUTH!

 

[sityeuropa]

Just gauging interest from comments in various forums, newspapers. There seems to be many more Vote Out supporters. Anyone else notice this?

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

No, because that's not my job?

You're now changing your arguments completely! You tried to say immigration drives wages up. I countered your argument with sources to prove it doesn't.

What sources are these??

We conclude that evidence points toward recent immigration to the UK,
having had on average a slightly positive wage effect, comprising significantly
positive wage effects around the middle of the distribution but clearly negative
wage effects at the lower end of the distribution. However, given the yearly
average inflows of immigrants over the period we consider, and the average
growth of real wages, the size of these effects is modest.

All figures clearly show a positive relationship between
immigrant ratios and wages.

This suggest that immigrant settlement takes place predominantly in areas which exhibited positive wage shocks over this period.

Source = University College London

 

[robfosters]

Regardless of in/out, I am looking forward to the dynamics of this campaign, particularly the face off between the PM and his own senior ministers who oppose him.

I wonder if Cameron means what he says or if he secretly has the knives out for Gove, IDS et al?

Maybe the rebels have all accepted that their political careers are now pretty much done until 2020.

 

[robfosters]

Just gauging interest from comments in various forums, newspapers. There seems to be many more Vote Out supporters. Anyone else notice this?

Overall, I think out voters are more passionate about their cause than the in voters, so you will hear more of their voices. Doesn't mean anything at the ballot box.

 

[datalol-jack]

Regardless of in/out, I am looking forward to the dynamics of this campaign, particularly the face off between the PM and his own senior ministers who oppose him.

I wonder if Cameron means what he says or if he secretly has the knives out for Gove, IDS et al?

Maybe the rebels have all accepted that their political careers are now pretty much done until 2020.

Boris is dithering too much, imho. It won't be a show without him!

 

[No1newts]

Overall, I think out voters are more passionate about their cause than the in voters, so you will hear more of their voices. Doesn't mean anything at the ballot box.

Like the SNP out vote and Labour winning the last general election, may be the noisiest but by no means in the ascendancy.

 

[Tefal]

You know what I mean. Or, if you don't, I mean there isn't the automaticity where it ends after x time. There'd have to be a new agreement which changes things. I was correcting Tefal's (entirely understandable) misinterpretation.

Yes i hadnt seen the actual finished deal when i made that post only the day before news report in work where it was all time limited.

My bad.

 

[Tefal]

One thing i will say if the referendum is held we vote to stay snd the EU reneg on this "deal" pretty much the only course that could save Cameron's career would be being on tv the next day anouncing a new referendum with his recomendation to leave.


If they gyp us and we do nothing then we're ****ed.

 

[robfosters]

One thing i will say if the referendum is held we vote to stay snd the EU reneg on this "deal" pretty much the only course that could save Cameron's career would be being on tv the next day anouncing a new referendum with his recomendation to leave.


If they gyp us and we do nothing then we're ****ed.

Absolutely. If they just ditch the lot and basically laugh in our faces, we must not bend over and take it.

 

[Tefal]

Absolutely. If they just ditch the lot and basically laugh in our faces, we must not bend over and take it.

This sadly reminds me of our pay negotiations at work. This last year.

They offered a **** deal despite highest proffits ever (share dividend was increased by 69% too profit up 60% on the last year, so an epic year) was voted no, they made a second **** offer that was voted no.

In come the national level reps for the union wwe're all think right this is it they'll get us a proper deal sorted as after this one its votes on acrion....3rd deal offered its worse than the first and it came with a letter from the national union rep that was full of lies and scaremongering about how it was the best wed ever get and if we took action we'd all lose out (i worked out in order to lose out if we pushed foe the same as last year over the course of my career wed have to go on strike for over 6 months).


The letter sounded more like it was written by the company than the union, was a disgrace.

But after that from a 80% rejection on the previous offer this last worst of the thre passed by 200 votes just over 50% as all the old fiys were scared.

Canceled my union sub after that.

And same will happen here i vote conservative but if we get ****ed on thier recomendation and they dont fight back for us I'll be voting for indipendants in future out of principle.

I have no problem with somone doing what they genuinly thought best and it being wrong.

Thats fine we're human, but i hate it when clearly some back room action happens and people who should be looking out for otheres do them wrong for personal/back room gain

 

[Tefal]

Typos galore sorry im on the phone