Err, except that all but one of them were native Europeans iirc? And really, I think it's totally over egging it when people talk about ISIS slipping in with the migrants....I mean, I guess they would have the funding and means to find far better ways of slipping in than dodgy boat crossings and where they are going to be under scrutiny.
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Err, except that all but one of them were native Europeans iirc? And really, I think it's totally over egging it when people talk about ISIS slipping in with the migrants....I mean, I guess they would have the funding and means to find far better ways of slipping in than dodgy boat crossings and where they are going to be under scrutiny.
Caporegime
The majority of the Paris attackers were French nationals, with a few other EU nationals. Not one identified attacker did not hold an EU passport.
Caporegime
Where was the one who wasn't a native European from? The Syrian migrant crisis allows IS jihadis to slip in without being noticed by the authorities, the authorities knew who these guys were but because they got into Europe covertly because of the EU's shambolic failure to get this crisis under control.
That's what I thought, but was covering bases as not got time to check atm
You're confusing me, who has got in covertly to attack Paris? They were EU nationals anyway so what has the Syrian migration got to do with it?
They didn't get in covertly at all? The authorities knew about them, and failed to act in time.
Why do they always know, they cant be that underfunded...
Caporegime
The ringleader, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was wanted by Police and was thought to be in Syria prior to November 13.
See above. Plus one of the attackers was an asylum seeker who arrived on a Greek island from Turkey with a fake Syrian passport. His true identity remains unknown.
Caporegime
A Belgian born man of Moroccan descent who carried an EU passport.
Caporegime
As incompetent as EU border forces are these days, I'd still expect them to catch a wanted man if he used his passport when entering the EU. He got into the EU somehow and not through legitimate means.
but what happens if eventually everybody was seen as "family". of course there would be "relatives" you don't get along with, but they are still family.
i mean, logistically speaking this would not work in the next even 100 years, but we need to stop hating and start aiming for these utopian goals, and not worrying about petty squabbles over the n-th% of tax we may see.
Caporegime
Aye, and then imagine if those relatives invited themselves to live at your house indefinitely. How would you feel about that?
depends on what their house was like that they left unattended and that you could go and use?
plot twist: they are millionaires and much improved your house!
Soldato
What negotiation? The EU leaders have already told Cameron he won't get a thing.
And as for leaving it's up to the people, not him.
And he would do irrespective of the Syrian refugee migration, you know, bad guys travel around the world surreptitiously anyway
Soldato
Every leader Cameron has seen has said NO to him. Cameron now admits the EU want a super state. He is asking for this
"Forcing Brussels to make “an explicit statement” that Britain will be kept out of any move towards a European superstate"
"Polish prime minister said Warsaw did not “see eye to eye” with the UK over plans to restrict access to in-work benefits"
I'm glad all my friends and family are voting out when the time comes.
And before anyone comes back with "the trade we will lose" we do no more trade with the eu now then when we was not in it.
http://www.betteroffout.net/the-case/10-eu-myths-about-withdrawl/
Compared to when? 50 years ago? 70 years ago? 100 years ago?
They have said an emphatic no to anything that restricts movement or treats EU citizens differently to UK ones - ie: in work benefits etc
Which is what I said in my first post and why now Cameron has to go back with watered down requests.....You said they told him he wouldn't get a thing, which isn't true
Caporegime
Cameron has been consistently and desperately incompetent in his negotiations, this is true.
Right, but Cameron wants it to go a particular way so he should be trying to conduct his negotiations in a way that he thinks will help him win the referendum.
Are we? There might be some perception of it but I am not entirely sure this is the case in reality.
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