Yep , certainly is , it's poor word choice on my part.
Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote?
- Thread starter Ricochet J
- Start date
- Status
Yep , certainly is , it's poor word choice on my part.
Soldato
Everyone I know will vote out now. Nothing wrong with the old visa system.
Lol doesn't matter to me what he thinks.
![[TW]Fox](/data/man-of-honor/2009.png){kind=avatar}
It's visa free for Schengen zone anyway of which the UK isn't part!
Until 2 days ago Turkish citizens could visit Russia visa-free to. This is a non-issue, let alone an issue that should affect whether you vote yes or no in an EU referendum. The reaction to this is incredibly surprising. Turks can also visit all of South America without a visa too.
Last edited:
Soldato
[TW]Fox;28880765 said:
I never mentioned any of that. So I don't see why you quoted me.
Because you are specifically commenting on the change to the Visa requirements
You even said 'Nothing wrong with the old visa system' to clarify that you were talking about the visa requirements
Man of Honour
That's probably because you never applied for a Visa into the UK.
I recently went to a Leave Europe meeting, hosted by the EFDD http://www.efdgroup.eu/
Louise Bours, MEP was there and some of the stuff she spouted was utter rubbish, she had a knack of telling the audience about certain pieces of legislation, it sounded convincing.
Where she fell down was when she was challenged by the Barrister that I went with, he just happens to be an expert on the subject of EU law, when taken to task she had absolutely no idea which legislation she was referring too.
The host had to step in to save her blushes, according to him, it was unfair of him to expect her to know what piece of legalisation she was commenting on.
Louise Bours, MEP was there and some of the stuff she spouted was utter rubbish, she had a knack of telling the audience about certain pieces of legislation, it sounded convincing.
Where she fell down was when she was challenged by the Barrister that I went with, he just happens to be an expert on the subject of EU law, when taken to task she had absolutely no idea which legislation she was referring too.
The host had to step in to save her blushes, according to him, it was unfair of him to expect her to know what piece of legalisation she was commenting on.
Soldato
I'll be voting out. I struggle to think of anything that I actually like about the EU project.
it's not hard to imagine they're completely unprepared for questions on their views. It's not even like Cameron backs up his views on the spot he's just better at sidestepping questions that don't fit his pre written responses.There must be some aspects you like. How about some of the consumer protection legislation? Had a delayed flight recently?
For me I've not decided which way I'd vote yet - there are aspects of the EU I really like, and aspects I really dislike. It's actually a very difficult question.
I imagine it's like that, the politicians and campaigners from both sides we be using the shock and awe "soundbites" . When challenged just go opened mouthed and start stuttering constantly.
I'd love to challenge Cameron in person
What legislation was it about?
What else got said?
Any stuff your mate agreed with after?
Last edited:
Soldato
[TW]Fox;28880980 said:
Consumer protection? I don't know much about that, but does having the EU legislate on it make it stronger/more effective than letting the nation states decide by themselves?
Legislation regarding the free movement of people was the main one, ultimately she did not which and under what conditions people could move within the EU.
She also blamed the rise of TB in the UK on EU immigration. I went home and did some brief research and her comments were absolutely wrong.
Incidentally, her party, UKIP want more immigration from Commonwealth countries, which is rather surprising as migrants from India are at the top of the chart when it comes to TB infections.
Roaming charges, scrapped thanks to the EU.
I imagine any arguments against the working time directive are crafted along the lines of "they want to make us as unproductive as the lazy French" or something about it stifling our noble British business owners.
- Status