Non-EU nationals are allowed into the UK, it's just a lot harder for them to get in than it is for EU nationals because of Brussels' racist laws.
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Non-EU nationals are allowed into the UK, it's just a lot harder for them to get in than it is for EU nationals because of Brussels' racist laws.
Which laws?
I read somewhere that its easier for an illiterate Romanian with zero skills to get into the UK than it is for a qualified engineer from India. How true it is I have no idea
We can't discriminate against any EU resident wishing to enter our country. Is it fair that a semi skilled person coming from China is very unlikely to be able to live and work in this country when anyone from eastern Europe can? One thing I'm certain on, is we don't need the EU to meet our immigration requirements.
Going back 7 years, my A level maths teacher was unable to gain permanent residence in the UK so had to return to Australia when her visa expired. The school she worked at had great difficulty recruiting good maths teachers and we refused a great one being able to stay and work here. How is that right?
Oh so I misunderstood you guys from the very beginning - you want to abandon all border control rather than tighten it. You want immigrants from all nations to have automatic right to remain like EU members?
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No mate we just want to treat all immigrants equally irrespective of nationality. What we don't want are racist EU laws that effectively mean we have to tell for example, a builder from India "sorry mate we can't let you in even though you're the most qualified person for the job" because builders from EU countries get preferential treatment.
Trifid's story was about how Aussie teacher didn't get her visa extended due to some sort of clerical error, so what you guys are proposing - it's only fair to treat everyone equally unfairly?
I can't comment on individual cases, but in general I think we should treat an immigration applicant from country A the same as we treat an immigrant from country B. If someone wants to come and work here, can speak the language, has skills that our economy needs, has no criminal record and is of good character - why should nationality matter?
Well, since Britain is not part of the Schengen agreement, it means EU doesn't have any input in creating its non-EU immigration policies. If you want all immigrants to have automatic right to remain, just get a petition running or contact your MP etc.
But that's not really what you want, right? You just want to disguise it with veil of equality.
But that's not really what you want, right? You just want to disguise it with veil of equality.
Is it really such a wacky idea that the UK should be able to turn away the human trash that can freely come here from inside the EU? Just as we turn away the human trash from outside the EU and human trash like myself is not permitted to live and work in most other countries without being deserving of it.
"Human trash"
Freedom to live and work within the EU is rightly viewed by most citizens of the EU as one of it's key benefits and a cornerstone of the free market. We don't just extend freedom to live and work to other EU countries, they extend the reciprocal right to us and millions of UK citizens take advantage of those benefits.
"Human trash"
Freedom to live and work within the EU is rightly viewed by most citizens of the EU as one of it's key benefits and a cornerstone of the free market. We don't just extend freedom to live and work to other EU countries, they extend the reciprocal right to us and millions of UK citizens take advantage of those benefits.
Yep everyone in the UK is flocking to work in places with no jobs.
Well of course I don't want that lol - that's a ridiculous notion. All I want is what's best for Britain and her citizens. I just want Britain to be a nice place to live, attract the best people from around the world to do the jobs with the skills we lack. Currently the racist EU rules prevent us from doing that by forcing us to discriminate unfairly in favour of citizens from EU countries.
"Human trash"
Freedom to live and work within the EU is rightly viewed by most citizens of the EU as one of it's key benefits and a cornerstone of the free market. We don't just extend freedom to live and work to other EU countries, they extend the reciprocal right to us and millions of UK citizens take advantage of those benefits.
Yes Brits are flooding out of Dover to be picker/packers in Romania, how could we be so short-sighted as to throw away this right.
Is it really worth having our sovereignty eroded for the sake of filling in some forms when you have to travel abroad?
Around 1.8 million Brits currently live in the EU, benefiting from the rights granted by the EU freedom to live and work and since there's a constant churn of people going in both directions that means that there is a much larger figure for the number of people from the UK who benefit from our arrangement over their lifetime.
What erosion of sovereignty are you talking about specifically? It is inevitable that when dealing with the wider world we will need to make compromises with other nations; leaving the EU won't change that.
It's certainly a clever tactic to spin it as a racist policy. 8/10.
It certainly seems that you don't.
Actually there are more British expats living in non-EU countries than the EU (Source). This idea that if we left the EU then Brits would suddenly not be welcome in the EU is absurd. On the other hand, staying in the EU is harming our relationship with other countries we've previously enjoyed excellent relationships with. For example, due to the EU's immigration rules we've had to cut the number of visas we give to Australian citizens. The Australian government isn't happy about this and is threatening to do the same (Source)
As part of the EU we don't make compromises with other nations at all - the EU does it for us. That's an erosion of sovereignty. By leaving the EU Britain would be free to make better deals for ourselves with other countries.
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Why does that mean the 1.8 million citizens don't benefit from the EU?
The idea that it would be as easy to live and work in the EU without the freedom to live and work there is also absurd. As it stands I can easily move to the EU, get a job and be assured that my partner can seek work there with ease; no such ease applies to getting a job in the US. I can also be assured that if I lose said job I can stay in my home and seek a new job; no such security attaches to jobs in other countries.
Nothing about EU laws requires us to cut immigration from elsewhere. That is Tory policy.
This idea that the EU makes decisions without us is complete nonsense; decisions are made by the EU either by (a) elected representatives or (b) negotiation by sovereign governments in which we're represented by our elected government.
And the idea that Britain would be able to make better deals is also highly dubious; the extra weight of the EU puts it in a much better position to negotiate with other countries.
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