Not anywhere near as many as live in France now. If we leave the EU then people will be reliant on their workplace to sponsor them. Time-consuming and expensive.
Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote?
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Not anywhere near as many as live in France now. If we leave the EU then people will be reliant on their workplace to sponsor them. Time-consuming and expensive.
Soldato
As they say in Canada - OOOT.
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I wonder if we did leave, if we'd get a massive influx of ex-pats coming back to the UK?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11617702/poll.html
What about this link Burnsey posted earlier?
Ipsos MORI polls over they years.
They don't seem to tally with the Survation one above at all.
EDIT: Shows 27% out, 61% stay in, as of June, with the trend an increase in the number wanting to stay in over the last 3 years.
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It would be interesting to see the poll rather than the "Independents" report on it.
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You can never take one poll in isolation to be representative - be that from IPOS MORI, YouGov, Survation or anyone else.
I should have really posted some more polls in my earlier post to show a bit of correlation between agencies to be more rigorous.
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Until recent events I would have said In everytime. However I've changed my mind. Its only way to stop the increasing de facto dictatorship, sorry, EU leadership of Germany.
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It's time to leave... lookout
The British are leaving.
The British are leaving.
I'd rather have been ruled by German politicians since ww2 than the British fools who actually ruled over me.
Soldato
feel free to go to germany then.
Soldato
I would still say remain as I believe the economic penalty (trade) of leaving would cripple a fragile economy.
That being said if stay had an impact on our stance on this current migration mess I would quickly change.
That being said if stay had an impact on our stance on this current migration mess I would quickly change.
That's a big issue that would need to be resolved. Depends how vindictive the EU is feeling.
I doubt many of the Brits who have retired to Spain have applied for Spanish citizenship.
Soldato
Not true. We buy more from the EU then we sell to them.
Also the Lisbon Treaty stipulates that the EU must make a trade agreement with a country which leaves the EU.
I believe the WTO rules lay down basic rules for international trade by which both the EU and UK are obliged to abide.
So all this nonsense about trade with the EU if we left is just silly.
I'll go further to say we will be better off as we can start doing trade with our old friends the Commonwealth.
Soldato
People would do what they used to do and get a visa. It was very simple thing to do.
Soldato
The EU thing with the open borders I've never agreed with and it's proved my point with the lack of response from a united Europe. I'm all for movement in the correct manner.
I see that from a trade point of view it is negative but maybe Britain should think bigger than that and give us a reason to be Great again?
Go global - China is such a big player and like every country has problems but you don't put all your eggs into one basket so you'd always seek to trade more. The advent of the internet has made it such a commercial possibility we'd have to push ourselves out of our comfort zone. Europe imposes too much that it doesn't matter if we agree or not.
I see that from a trade point of view it is negative but maybe Britain should think bigger than that and give us a reason to be Great again?
Go global - China is such a big player and like every country has problems but you don't put all your eggs into one basket so you'd always seek to trade more. The advent of the internet has made it such a commercial possibility we'd have to push ourselves out of our comfort zone. Europe imposes too much that it doesn't matter if we agree or not.
Amen to that
Thank god for that. Shouldn't even be a referendum though.
Holiday visas are very simple. Working/permanent visas a lot less so. Leaving the EU would give lawyers plenty of more work. I guess that's one positive?
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